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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 02:45 PM
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Alright so I just tried to take my wheels of to do some checking of the brakes. Tried a hand ratchet, had a feeling it wasn't gunna work but I tried anyway. Didn't work. Tried an Impact wrench. Not a budge. How are the wheels going to come off? I tried the same thing basically that the dealer will do. If I can't get them off, how would they? Better idea, how would I?

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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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Ummm impact gun should rip those lugs right off... righty tighty lefty lucy.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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switch the direction of the impact gun (op) or put the car down on the ground before you start trying to loosen the lug nuts?
(dang, beat me by a few seconds

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i thought you said impact gun
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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Maybe you better leave this to a professional.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
Maybe you better leave this to a professional.
bol. (burst out laughing).
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:23 PM
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Turn the lug counter clockwise , repeat 4 times and the wheel will come off.

Repeat the above for each wheel.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by terrasmak
Turn the lug counter clockwise , repeat 4 times and the wheel will come off.

Repeat the above for each wheel.
haha,very funny. Only issue is they won't turn.

Over on driver I got the advice of they were over torqued when reinstalled last time (not by me!) and that they will probably break the studs when they do come off So I'm going to bring it to Infiniti for my 37500 mile service. Was going to do it myself but why not let them do it, they need to check my brakes anyway.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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This happened to my friend's civic when he first bought it. The wheels wouldn't come off for him to raise the suspension, well he took it to a shop and they just used WD-40 first and then breaker bar'd the thing loose didnt break any studs.
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Old Aug 13, 2008 | 11:05 PM
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I actually broke 4 studs on Nforce1's car a few months ago, all cross threaded. Thats why i always start lugs by hand.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 04:37 AM
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I tried WD-40 and still nothing If I do break a stud...what needs to be replaced and how much does it cost?
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 05:18 AM
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This is basically what you need http://www.ichibausa.com/ni12exstsh35.html but alightly longer than stock, or you could order the nismo ones , and you will need new lug nuts for each stud that broke off. You may be able to get the studs at your local parts store , just check with them before you need them , or order from your dealer.

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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 07:06 AM
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Ok dude 1 go to home dept, lowes, ace harware, sears and but a good impact gun for like 100$ that's where I got mine at and I use it everyday at work with no problems. 700lbs torque will rip those right off. spray wd-40 wait a little spray again the impact it off going counterclockwise.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 07:31 AM
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I got mine at lowes and it's pretty strong...I forget the number exactly but it's over 500 I think. I Have a service appointment tomorrow to look at the brakes and my tranny noise so we'll see how they do it. When I get home just to be safe, I'll take them off and torque them to 85 like they should be. To make sure they aren't over torqued
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 07:47 AM
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I do mine at 95 just to be safe
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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I thought this was a thread about Rap music for a second...

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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:27 AM
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I'm pretty sure you shouldn't use an impact gun for removing or installing lug nuts. Shops do it, but that doesn't mean it's right. The lug nuts should be torqued to the amount prescribed in the owner's manual, and theoretically it should not take much more than that amount of torque to get them off.

Your first instinct was correct, take it to the Dealer and let them deal with it. If they break a stud, it should be on them. Make sure you ask them specifically to torque to factory specs when they reinstall.

I think the reason that shops overtighten lug nuts is so that when the seating torque relieves itself a bit, the nuts will still be tight enough. If you torque them to spec, you really should check torque / re-torque them 25 or 30 miles of driving later because they can relieve themselves (i.e. come loose) a little bit. Shops don't want to be liable for your wheel falling of while driving, so they crank the hell out of them.

MY gf had a flat tire on her Civic, while it was sleeting out, and I was trying to swap it out for the spare but I couldn't break the lug nuts loose. I tried using a tire iron, a 1.5' long breaker bar, no dice. Felt like my chest muscles were getting torn from my bones trying to break the nuts loose. So 15 minutes later and covered in a sheet of ice, I still had a flat tire on the car, so now I'm a little sensitive to shops being careless.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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^ +1 i work at a shop and I put customer car's wheels on by hand then impact them slightly. Usually the impact guns have torque settings so mine go on at about 150 or so so save my ***. Most shops do it including dealers but some are just careless and do torque them like at 500 or more.
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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you can use impact gun with torque limiting sockets.... i have a 75 lb torque limiting socket - it gets them on there nice and tight...i then lower the car and make my rounds to each one with my torque wrench and usually to 95...

but im sad right now as my goodyear impact just recently died and i cant find my receipt for warranty...boo...
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Old Aug 14, 2008 | 10:07 AM
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Receipts ftw
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