Sumitomo HTR Z III
Sumitomo HTR Z III
09-13-2008, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GA_VQ
Does anyone have pics of these mounted on a Z? I wanna know if the sidewall is too round for me.
the 255/40/17 on the front 9 inch wide rim looks great though.
you can check my thread history to see many, many pictures in the thread about them.
overall they are ****ing fantastic, espeically for the price.
let me know if you have any specific questions and I will try to help
09-13-2008, 06:54 PM
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09-13-2008, 08:56 PM
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I don't like the fact that they have the outside and inside labeled on the tires. What would happen if I flipped it so that the inside labeled side is on the outside and outside labeled side in on the inside? What could be the reason for having labeled sides?
09-14-2008, 03:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I don't like the fact that they have the outside and inside labeled on the tires. What would happen if I flipped it so that the inside labeled side is on the outside and outside labeled side in on the inside? What could be the reason for having labeled sides?
09-14-2008, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by itsjiggajames
some tires are made that way for cornering reasons. The outside is labeled that way so when you corner the wider patches grip, and the inner side is usually to channel water away.
When I received these tires, I got tires that were identical. That is the left side, for example, were both labeled outside, and the right side were labeled inside. So when you put them on, you have to flip one tire, which means the one of the tires is on "backwards" with respect to tread pattern. If that's the case, how can it channel any water away?
09-14-2008, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I have them. They're pretty nice for their price. I don't think they do too well in the rain (I'd say average or so) and the grip is decent also (about average).
here is a shot that shows the 'roundness' of the sidewall:
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09-14-2008, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I can see the cornering reasoning, but the water thing doesn't make sense.
When I received these tires, I got tires that were identical. That is the left side, for example, were both labeled outside, and the right side were labeled inside. So when you put them on, you have to flip one tire, which means the one of the tires is on "backwards" with respect to tread pattern. If that's the case, how can it channel any water away?
When I received these tires, I got tires that were identical. That is the left side, for example, were both labeled outside, and the right side were labeled inside. So when you put them on, you have to flip one tire, which means the one of the tires is on "backwards" with respect to tread pattern. If that's the case, how can it channel any water away?
it's odd.
09-14-2008, 10:42 AM
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I'd also like to add that the sidewall could be a bit stiffer. When cornering, it seems to have a bit of flex - more than I'd like - or maybe I'm getting to the point of being "too round" on the tires.
As far as traction, I drag race, so I know these don't grip as well as they could.
And in the rain, they're decent but it leaves something to be desired.
With all that said, for their price, they're definitely not a bad buy and not many could beat its performance per dollar spent value. There is a cheaper tire that seems to have gotten higher "ratings" on tirerack all around, though. I want to try that one too (General Exclaim UHP, I think).
So, all tires have same tread pattern with a specific side always labeled the same for those also, like the HTR Z III?
I was going to flip the tires so that the "inside" becomes "outside" and vice versa, to see if there's a noticeable difference. Plus, I have negative camber so that would help with the wear.
As far as traction, I drag race, so I know these don't grip as well as they could.
And in the rain, they're decent but it leaves something to be desired.
With all that said, for their price, they're definitely not a bad buy and not many could beat its performance per dollar spent value. There is a cheaper tire that seems to have gotten higher "ratings" on tirerack all around, though. I want to try that one too (General Exclaim UHP, I think).
Originally Posted by Motormouth
I don't understand it either, but the new Goodyear eagle asymetrical and Vredesteins are the same way.
it's odd.
it's odd.
I was going to flip the tires so that the "inside" becomes "outside" and vice versa, to see if there's a noticeable difference. Plus, I have negative camber so that would help with the wear.
09-14-2008, 02:45 PM
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I have 245/40/18 HTR Z II's (not III's) on my truck on 8" rims and the sidewalls are very rounded looking (I don't like). Had a different brand on before (forgot what they were) that looked perfect.
But at least they are the cheapest tire in that size the Tire Rack sells. For my truck cheap is good for my car cheap is not so much good.
But at least they are the cheapest tire in that size the Tire Rack sells. For my truck cheap is good for my car cheap is not so much good.
09-15-2008, 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 3hree5ive0ero
I can see the cornering reasoning, but the water thing doesn't make sense.
When I received these tires, I got tires that were identical. That is the left side, for example, were both labeled outside, and the right side were labeled inside. So when you put them on, you have to flip one tire, which means the one of the tires is on "backwards" with respect to tread pattern. If that's the case, how can it channel any water away?
When I received these tires, I got tires that were identical. That is the left side, for example, were both labeled outside, and the right side were labeled inside. So when you put them on, you have to flip one tire, which means the one of the tires is on "backwards" with respect to tread pattern. If that's the case, how can it channel any water away?
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