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Old 06-10-2012, 06:47 PM
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NT555's were the worst tire I've ever owned.....by a large margin.
Old 06-10-2012, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 08z206
275s up front

335s rear. nice but too wide (touches fender but im lowered on coilovers)

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Old 06-10-2012, 06:59 PM
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I found them to be extremely predictable, loved the sidewall construction and wet grip was on par for a summer tire. Id also say the dry grip was way better than other tires in its price range. Some have complained about the noise level but it never bothered me, hell I couldn't even here them over my exhaust. Now if you're looking for a loud tire then look no farther than the BFG KDW, they're like driving on 44" super swampers on the highway.
Old 06-10-2012, 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by SR71
Ive had at least 5 sets of the Nitto nt555's over the years and they've always been great for me.
I'm not trying to be rude but are you making some good power? Most of the owners I talked to about the Nittos are making 500+whp. Granted you can spin any tire at that power range but they all hated them.

Originally Posted by SR71
I found them to be extremely predictable, loved the sidewall construction and wet grip was on par for a summer tire. Id also say the dry grip was way better than other tires in its price range. Some have complained about the noise level but it never bothered me, hell I couldn't even here them over my exhaust. Now if you're looking for a loud tire then look no farther than the BFG KDW, they're like driving on 44" super swampers on the highway.
Funny you mention the KDW. LOL Cause I LOVED my KDW on my Z. I didn't find them loud at all. Guess it was hidden by my exhaust and/or stereo.

I'm now on the R888 and for the little time I drove them I liked them. Really wasn't able to push them and they were brand new so still need to burn off that top level of oils and such.
Old 06-10-2012, 07:29 PM
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i would try other tires... nt555 was OK in the dry, awful in the wet.
Old 06-10-2012, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_K
I'm not trying to be rude but are you making some good power? Most of the owners I talked to about the Nittos are making 500+whp. Granted you can spin any tire at that power range but they all hated them.



Funny you mention the KDW. LOL Cause I LOVED my KDW on my Z. I didn't find them loud at all. Guess it was hidden by my exhaust and/or stereo.

I'm now on the R888 and for the little time I drove them I liked them. Really wasn't able to push them and they were brand new so still need to burn off that top level of oils and such.
Not rude at all, that's a legit question. No I was never boosted with them or ever over 300whp but most people aren't either so they I found them to be great for my application. Now if I were at those elevated power levels I would also make sure my tires were on the same field, until then I buy a tire that is most fitting for what power Im currently making and how they will be driven. What I've learned in 8 years in tire sales and tire production is that there are several kinds of buyers out there.
1. People who buy the cheapest for their needs. ( the hella flush crew loves this moto)
2. People who buy tires on realistically how they will use the tires. ( very few people in this group )
3. People who buy what they are told to get on forums going by how they think they will drive. (majority in this group, people who think they are pro drivers because they did an autocross once and like to take corners fast on the street)
4. People who buy what they really need because although they run autocross and HPDE they still don't consider themselves to be better than they are or try to exaggerate what they do. (very few in this group, they can usually be found helping others with their questions on car setup and tire choice once they've figured out who the posers are )

Basically "most people" either over buy or under buy on tires and can only regurgitate what other have told them. Having built tires for a living before has been a educating experience and taught me several things that sales did not.

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Old 06-10-2012, 07:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jarrodh77
When was the Z moved to STX?
This is just where my local group placed me. Idk classing very well. I just race what I brought, I enjoy autocross but my car was built for me to enjoy just driving on the street and around town
Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Never. Nor would that front stillen splitter be legal. Lifting rear tire...bad. Needs more front spring or bar.
With wheels and tires, intakes, exhaust, retune, coils, the splitter and a quaife diff where would you say I should be classed? Just curious.

I may eventually upgrade the sways to hotchkis. Trying to hold off on spending much money on anything lately and just trying to enjoy driving the car.

Better off that this guy at least!
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He drove the car way too hard though in my opinion. Way too much sliding, especially for an awd car. Maybe I drive like a woman haha.

http://youtu.be/EKK5_VrzH2M I am not using the 4 pts, so please ignore the slack in them.

Originally Posted by Robert_K
I've hear and read nothing but complaints about Nitto tires and yet so many still buy them.
What are all the bad things you're hearing? They came on my wheels when I bought them used, and I've been happy with them thus far. My personal tire experience though is slim so I have little to compare to.

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Making quite a few insinuations there....care to tell us who you think are "most people,etc"? Aside from that, what are your credentials to label people as such?
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Originally Posted by EmpireDude
With intakes, exhaust, retune, coils, the splitter and a quaife diff where would you say I should be classed? Just curious.
SSM because of the splitter. The tires bump you out of STR and the splitter out of BSP.
Old 06-10-2012, 07:57 PM
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I don't get why people buy R comps for hooking in a straight line? wouldn't you just want a DR for that?
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
SSM because of the splitter. The tires bump you out of STR and the splitter out of BSP.
Thanks, I appreciate you're help and input. Just curious because I do not 100% understand what the classing even "means", how does SSM compare to STX? Is one higher/faster than the other, or are they just "different"?
Old 06-10-2012, 07:59 PM
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Class doesn't really matter if you're not competitive.
Old 06-10-2012, 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by SE5spd
Class doesn't really matter if you're not competitive.
I understand nationally my car would be poorly prepared for either class, but locally I beat the other 6 cars in STX and also beat the times of the two in SSM. I was just curious though, and I assume 03threefiftyz would have something to say on the subject.

It is just my guess, but because the pax multiplier on STX is lower than that of SSM, that would mean that they consider SSM to be the faster class? Or maybe there is no relation between pax multipliers and "speed", it's just my assumption.
Old 06-10-2012, 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
Making quite a few insinuations there....care to tell us who you think are "most people,etc"? Aside from that, what are your credentials to label people as such?
Just from who Ive sold tires to, friends and family, and few observations of people posting over countless forums and many years. I really don't care what people put on their car, they're adults in a free country and can do what they want. As for credentials, Ive worked both wholesale and retail in tire sales, made tires by hand for Goodyear, and have worked for a known Forged wheel co here in the US. Sure Ive done Autocross, HPDE, Open track club days, a couple of PCA meets, and participated in tire testing for Goodyear and Dunlop but I still wouldn't consider myself as an expert, there's always more to learn.

Please don't get me wrong here I'm not trying to come off as a know it all or judgmental, I'm simply sharing what I like for my car and willing to share what I've learned over the years. Are my generalizations 100% no but there is some truth in them. I understand that my post count is low "here" and there is a pecking order to the forum when it comes to valuable info but I just wanted to participate in the conversation and share from my point of view. Take it with a grain of salt like all posts should be.
Old 06-10-2012, 08:39 PM
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SSM is the fastest DOT legal class in autocross. It is dominated by big turbo (some 3 rotor) RX7's with big aero and hoosiers.





I do well nationally, take FTD's at club events and smaller SCCA regions, but the top national SSM cars can be 1-1.5s faster on 50s courses.
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08z206, anymore pics?
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So nice I had to share!!!

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[QUOTE=SE5spd;9768165]
Originally Posted by bbs350z

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how much room is left between the tire and suspension??
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[QUOTE=bbs350z;9771228]
Originally Posted by SE5spd

how much room is left between the tire and suspension??
I assume a decent amount.
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Originally Posted by 03threefiftyz
SSM is the fastest DOT legal class in autocross. It is dominated by big turbo (some 3 rotor) RX7's with big aero and hoosiers.

[IMG]http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/picture.php?albumid=313&pictureid=2607[IMG]

[IMG]http://www.gotcone.com/pgallery/images/2010_scca_tirerack_solo_nationals/ssm/img_8630.jpg[IMG]

I do well nationally, take FTD's at club events and smaller SCCA regions, but the top national SSM cars can be 1-1.5s faster on 50s courses.
Wow that car is beast! I love how it looks from the front.


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