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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 04:15 PM
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Ok, I've been researching for about 4 months since I got my new 08 Z. I'm not really a fan of big lips and I live in Australia so to get a lightweight, concave wheel that I can actually try on that has the right offset etc has been a bit of a mission. I think I've finally found the right wheel

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Front: 19 x 8.5 +22
Rear: 19 x 10 +22

I haven't made a decision on tires yet, any feedback on this would be appreciated. Also any feedback on the wheel widths 8.5/10 and how this will affect performance and handling etc. would also be appreciated.

First up, we had problems fitting the front wheels as there was a screw on stud that to me doesn't serve any purpose other than to stop people putting the back wheels on the front (the back wheels didn't have a space to allow for the stud? Can anyone tell me if this is true?

Here is a pic of the stud:


We removed the stud:


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Back wheel offset (I know the wheels will come in more when its lowered down):




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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 04:18 PM
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i think it looks real good.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 04:27 PM
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You do understand the wheels will come in quite a bit just by having the suspension compressed, versus completely down like they are in the pictures, correct?

In other words, those offsets are weak by basically anyone on this site's standard, not just the stretched tire guys. Other than that, I like Enkei and that model looks pretty good. I might be able to recommend spacer and/or tire options if I know what kind of look or function you're going for. If you haven't bought them yet, if you are sticking with those offsets I would recommend a 9.5/10.5 setup, at least.

The bolt on the front wheel is for exactly the purpose you described and only for that purpose. Believe it or not, people can be that dumb.

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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 06:19 PM
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Those offsets are not weak. They are slightly conservative, but by all means they are not weak.

OEM = weak offsets.
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Old Jun 19, 2009 | 09:31 PM
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cool wheels, I used to be gay for them until I saw them in person though, not a fan of the spoke design and its flow into the lip.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 01:09 AM
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Nice wheels. A trial fit with no tires is smart.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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Trial fit is the way to go. And I like the offsets...rather than trying to get within 1mm of scraping the tires so that your car seemingly is hot. Great move and great selection.
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Old Jun 20, 2009 | 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR
You do understand the wheels will come in quite a bit just by having the suspension compressed, versus completely down like they are in the pictures, correct?

In other words, those offsets are weak by basically anyone on this site's standard, not just the stretched tire guys. Other than that, I like Enkei and that model looks pretty good. I might be able to recommend spacer and/or tire options if I know what kind of look or function you're going for. If you haven't bought them yet, if you are sticking with those offsets I would recommend a 9.5/10.5 setup, at least.

The bolt on the front wheel is for exactly the purpose you described and only for that purpose. Believe it or not, people can be that dumb.
Yep.. I understand that the wheels will come in quite a bit. The look that I am trying to go for is to have the wheel flush in line with the fender (wheel arch) without rubbing and without needing to roll the fender.

I think the rears will be OK, the fronts are probably a bit weak. The only other options for the front are 19 x 9 +18 or 19 x 9.5 +22. What are your thoughts about the 19 x 9 +18?

In terms of tires.. I am not going for the stretched look.

Edit: Available widths & offsets for this wheel.

19 x 8.5 +42
19 x 8.5 +22
19 x 9 +18
19 x 9.5 +42
19 x 9.5 +22
19 x 10 +22

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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by singh
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Those offsets are not weak. They are slightly conservative, but by all means they are not weak.

OEM = weak offsets.
They really are.

I run a 9.5 with a 245/35/20. If I kept the 245, I could easily run a 15-20mm spacer if I wanted to be "flush" with the fender. Keep in mind he is talking about an 8.5" front wheel, which means he will be inset an additional 12.XX mm than me, and be running a smaller (diameter) wheel and tire combo. That's going to make it so he has...hmmm...about 2.XX inches that the wheel will be inset from the fender. He couldn't run large enough of a tire on that width wheel to even be beneficial to the conservative width and offset.

On the flipside, I'm not a stretched tire guy and it looks like I could easily fit a 265/30/20 next time I need a front set from my calculations.

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Yep.. I understand that the wheels will come in quite a bit. The look that I am trying to go for is to have the wheel flush in line with the fender (wheel arch) without rubbing and without needing to roll the fender.

I think the rears will be OK, the fronts are probably a bit weak. The only other options for the front are 19 x 9 +18 or 19 x 9.5 +22. What are your thoughts about the 19 x 9 +18?

In terms of tires.. I am not going for the stretched look.

Edit: Available widths & offsets for this wheel.

19 x 8.5 +42
19 x 8.5 +22
19 x 9 +18
19 x 9.5 +42
19 x 9.5 +22
19 x 10 +22
I think the 19x9 +18 offers better fitment, though the 19x9.5 +22 is practically what I have only in 19" and will still give you plenty of room to run a 255/35/19 or even a 265/35/19 in the front. The front fenders are basically rolled from the factory.

I think the rear fitment of 19x10 +22 is pretty decent for all around good fitment. It will also allow you to pretty easily run a 285/35/19 and I don't think you will need to roll fenders. I currently run a 20x11" in the rear at about the same offset (roughly +25 from my measurements, though iForged doesn't release offsets) and I can get a 285/30/20 or maybe even a 295/30/20 depending on the brand, but my fenders are rolled flat in the rear.

Overall, I'd suggest the 19x9 +18 and 19x10 +22 from the choices offered. This should allow you to run the new standard, 255 up front and 285 in the rear. Your wheel will not be "flush", but it's about as flush as you will get without fender modifications and hearing rubbage all the time.

Are you lowered, if so how much?

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Old Jun 21, 2009 | 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Done Deal DR
They really are.

I run a 9.5 with a 245/35/20. If I kept the 245, I could easily run a 15-20mm spacer if I wanted to be "flush" with the fender. Keep in mind he is talking about an 8.5" front wheel, which means he will be inset an additional 12.XX mm than me, and be running a smaller (diameter) wheel and tire combo. That's going to make it so he has...hmmm...about 2.XX inches that the wheel will be inset from the fender. He couldn't run large enough of a tire on that width wheel to even be beneficial to the conservative width and offset.

On the flipside, I'm not a stretched tire guy and it looks like I could easily fit a 265/30/20 next time I need a front set from my calculations.



I think the 19x9 +18 offers better fitment, though the 19x9.5 +22 is practically what I have only in 19" and will still give you plenty of room to run a 255/35/19 or even a 265/35/19 in the front. The front fenders are basically rolled from the factory.

I think the rear fitment of 19x10 +22 is pretty decent for all around good fitment. It will also allow you to pretty easily run a 285/35/19 and I don't think you will need to roll fenders. I currently run a 20x11" in the rear at about the same offset (roughly +25 from my measurements, though iForged doesn't release offsets) and I can get a 285/30/20 or maybe even a 295/30/20 depending on the brand, but my fenders are rolled flat in the rear.

Overall, I'd suggest the 19x9 +18 and 19x10 +22 from the choices offered. This should allow you to run the new standard, 255 up front and 285 in the rear. Your wheel will not be "flush", but it's about as flush as you will get without fender modifications and hearing rubbage all the time.

Are you lowered, if so how much?
Car isn't lowered at all, factory suspension.

19x9 +18 and 19x10 +22 is what I was thinking. Will I need negative camber to fit the 19x9 +18 on the front? Will the front wheels be more flush than the 19x10 +22 rears?
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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 02:32 AM
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I think 19x9 +18 and 19x10 +22 will look good...

Found some pics of a guy's Z running the same size & offset. his tires are 255/35/19 front & 285/30/19 back.

Here are the pics:
















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you want the 9" front with +18 and 10" rear with +22 offset. This is about the max you can go without rubbing.

these are 18's - tires are 295/35/18 rear 265/35/18 front



more pics so you can see the offsets better:





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Old Jun 22, 2009 | 09:31 AM
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Yeah, both your post Nick and Zivman's post confirmed what I thought, those offsets should be perfect and allow you to run quite a bit of rubber, though I would recommend getting the same profile tire front and rear. With a 255 front I do not think you will need to add negative camber, any larger and you may need to (only for visual reasons, you shouldn't rub if you're stock height, though I've heard crazier things before).

Looks like you're on the right track now man.
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Originally Posted by Nick-VTR
I think 19x9 +18 and 19x10 +22 will look good...

Found some pics of a guy's Z running the same size & offset. his tires are 255/35/19 front & 285/30/19 back.
Those tires sizes will fuss with the VDC. You'd want 285/35 in the rear.
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Those tires sizes will fuss with the VDC. You'd want 285/35 in the rear.
Not necessarily. I've ran 275/30/19 before on my track Z equipped with VDC. No issues.
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I originally wanted these wheels in 19x9 +18, 19x10 +22 option for my car, but couldn't get them at that time. I settled on 19x8.5 +22, 19x9.5 +22.

Now I want to upsize again... Unfortunately there's no 19x10.5 +22 size in this wheel, however Enkei did recently release the same style wheel updated in a 20x10.5 +18 offset... and the strange thing is they only weigh 22.3lbs which is less than the 19x10 +22 wheels (~26.2lbs) somehow... Enkei just ran outside to weigh some wheels to confirm for me if this is a typo or not though haha...

What do you guys think about 19x9.5 +22 265/35/19 20x10.5 +18 305/20/30 staggered set-up? 20's on a Z yes/no? Would it look bad-***? Too much rubber? Is 10.5 +18 too far out, would it be past flush? I want a flush look now.
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Originally Posted by mcarther101
I originally wanted these wheels in 19x9 +18, 19x10 +22 option for my car, but couldn't get them at that time. I settled on 19x8.5 +22, 19x9.5 +22.

Now I want to upsize again... Unfortunately there's no 19x10.5 +22 size in this wheel, however Enkei did recently release the same style wheel updated in a 20x10.5 +18 offset... and the strange thing is they only weigh 22.3lbs which is less than the 19x10 +22 wheels (~26.2lbs) somehow... Enkei just ran outside to weigh some wheels to confirm for me if this is a typo or not though haha...

What do you guys think about 19x9.5 +22 265/35/19 20x10.5 +18 305/20/30 staggered set-up? 20's on a Z yes/no? Would it look bad-***? Too much rubber? Is 10.5 +18 too far out, would it be past flush? I want a flush look now.
305 will rub on a 10.5" wheel at +18 without serious camber and a fender roll.

You can get a 295 on a 10" wheel, which is PLENTY of rubber without looking overly bulging. Regardless, I personally wouldn't run a 20" wheel
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Originally Posted by mcarther101
Not necessarily. I've ran 275/30/19 before on my track Z equipped with VDC. No issues.
What size was the front tire?
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