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Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:01 AM
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Default Quality of knock offs.

I tried searching, i'm sure there is a thread but maybe i wasn't looking for the right key words.

Either way I am going to soon be looking at getting some rims and I know I can't afford 3000$ for a set of volks and living down in Hialeah/Miami FL the roads are crap. I am looking at some decent looking knock offs(don't worry im not going to rebrand them).

I wanted to hear some opinions of what brands to look at and which to avoid all together. I obviously know of Drag and Rota, what are some others to look at? also as a daily driver (not on a track or strip) how is the quality? I know I will not be getting light rims and all for what i'm going to be spending but quality vs. buck. Has anyone here experienced any trouble(not just read or seen pics online)?

Thanks for your help.

The ones I saw I like are Drag DR-32 vs. Rota P-45R probably in 18s.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 11:59 AM
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they are all very similar... rota, sportmaxx, drag, konig... just different designs really. take yer pic! and if they offer staggard setups, just tell them you want the rears all around.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 12:00 PM
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Drags are cheap chinese junk, worse than Rotas. My advice is, think about more affordable but good quality wheels like Enkeis, FiveADs which are not knockoffs.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 12:02 PM
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Why don't you look at Enkei and Work Emotions or Weds, they are not 3k rims and they are good quality. You don't need to go for knockoffs for cheap rims.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 12:12 PM
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+1 on enkei nice line of wheels and not that pricey.
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RPF1's FTW!
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+1 on enkeis

or if you dont mind heavy rims fiveADs are really nice too
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 01:32 PM
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Axis and stock rims have the higest number of failures on this forum.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 01:47 PM
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Many of us have purchased wheels other than Volk. There are enough

I just got new wheels

threads to keep you busy for a year.
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Originally Posted by crypticsage

Either way I am going to soon be looking at getting some rims and I know I can't afford 3000$ for a set of volks and living down in Hialeah/Miami FL the roads are crap. I am looking at some decent looking knock offs(don't worry im not going to rebrand them).
in that case, you should open a savings account and save up for some good wheels if you can't afford them right now. using cheap, poor quality, knock-off wheels on your crappy streets will cost you a lot more than 3K down the road when one of them fail.

not saying the better quality ones will fail if they hit a big enough pot hole. but your chances increase by using the cheaper ones and when hitting smaller ones also.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 02:18 PM
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pick up the gt-r r34 wheels from ebay for $1200... explore your options before
you decide to invest your hard earned money in ****.
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Originally Posted by Sean
Axis and stock rims have the higest number of failures on this forum.

Such a worthless comment.


Get any wheels you want that are in your price range, you dont HAVE to get Volks or Works or Glights or any of those. I could have easily afforded Works or Enkeis etc. And even though they a few (bad batch of about 50 wheels)cracked like 6-7 years ago, i still picked up the Axis Hiros cause quite frankly i dont track and i love the way they look. I trusted Axis has fixed the problem in 6 damn years...and they have.

If you look hard enough youll find almost every wheel brand has had failures. If you dont track and your on a budget get whatever you want, but as a rule of thumb i would choose mid level company and stay away from Ruff racing, Konig, etc. I only say this because finish may fade or wear easier and offsets are horrible.

Dont worry about wheel failure, cause it's 99.99999% not gonna happen.
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enkei, axis, rota wait.. let me correct myself. enkei, enkei, and enkei.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 03:02 PM
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I have rota's and I love them, no issues.

I have bought volks in the past, spent $5k on impuls at one point (different car and 4 years ago) sure they looked awesome...but bleh....I spent less then $1k on my setup and I am happy as can be with it.
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Get some RPF1 or work emos
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Get whatever you want. Rotas are great wheels, and Dan at wheeldude.com will give you a deal. People hate replicas because they are copycats at lower prices, while these people have "replica" nismo kits and wings installed....I don't get it.
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Originally Posted by GeauxLadyZ
Such a worthless comment.


Get any wheels you want that are in your price range, you dont HAVE to get Volks or Works or Glights or any of those. I could have easily afforded Works or Enkeis etc. And even though they a few (bad batch of about 50 wheels)cracked like 6-7 years ago, i still picked up the Axis Hiros cause quite frankly i dont track and i love the way they look. I trusted Axis has fixed the problem in 6 damn years...and they have.

If you look hard enough youll find almost every wheel brand has had failures. If you dont track and your on a budget get whatever you want, but as a rule of thumb i would choose mid level company and stay away from Ruff racing, Konig, etc. I only say this because finish may fade or wear easier and offsets are horrible.

Dont worry about wheel failure, cause it's 99.99999% not gonna happen.
And he's right.
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one more time for good luck... Enkei
Or work emotions.
Old Jul 11, 2009 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Novesh
I have rota's and I love them, no issues.

I have bought volks in the past, spent $5k on impuls at one point (different car and 4 years ago) sure they looked awesome...but bleh....I spent less then $1k on my setup and I am happy as can be with it.
I'm happy to hear you are enjoying the new wheels Dimitry
Originally Posted by vthao
Get whatever you want. Rotas are great wheels, and Dan at wheeldude.com will give you a deal. People hate replicas because they are copycats at lower prices, while these people have "replica" nismo kits and wings installed....I don't get it.
Thanks for the support David!




As others have mentioned, the majority of "hate" stems from wheels having similar designs to other "higher end" wheels. I can't comment on some of the other manufactures, however I would like to share some info regarding Rota Wheels.

A common misconception is the amount of R&D that goes in to a Rota wheel and also the quality of these wheels. I've been to the Rota plant and seen these wheels produced, tested, etc.. There is definitely a lot of work involved in to making a wheel and money is saved as labor in the Philippines is cheaper and they are a cast wheel so the entire manufacturing process isn't as expensive.

I definitely stand behind these products as I truly believe they are quality wheels. I've ran tons of wheels over the years including Volk, Work, etc.. and I still love Rota wheels and run them daily on my car on the street, on the track, etc.. PAWI (the company that manufactures Rota wheels) has been in business since the 1970's and has been producing quality wheels for a long time. They manufacture a ton of wheels for the OEM markets (Toyota, Ford, Datsun, Isuzu, Mercedes-Benz, VW, etc..). We also visit Rota and fly all the way from the US to the Philippines to attend meetings, review our upcoming wheels, monitor production, etc.. This is a product we believe in and hope you guys can see that.


A few pictures from our trip last year

production meetings


looking over different wheel finishes for our new releases



no R&D?? please.... every wheel is blue printed, goes through computer simulations for testing, produced, tested on various equipment to ensure all JWL/VIA standards are met, etc..



again you say no R&D? Every new wheel is tested thoroughly to make sure they exceed all JWL/VIA test standards, this alone proves they are strong wheels and can withstand a lot of abuse



Toyota? Yep the largest car manufacture in the world runs Rota's



Rota Wheels, Engineered to perform




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Old Jul 12, 2009 | 08:08 AM
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If you wants a decent set of wheel that does not cost too much, just go with Enkei. They have good reputations and been on racetrack for decades. They doesn't cause that much more from Rota, and have much better reputation.

Enkei > Rota



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