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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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I've been on here for a good while, but this is my first post. I took a dive back in May and ordered a set of 19" Work VS-MS 9.5 +27/10.5 +27 setup with 255/35 and 285/35 tires respectively. Took it to the shop and they said with the tire mounted it will come in direct contact with the steering knuckle? I'm not even sure what exactly the steering knuckle is... but I'm pretty sure you guys run similar setups to these all the time and don't have any issue. I'm not a mastermind when it comes to wheel fitment... but what did I do wrong? Please advise... Thanks!

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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Makes no sense. There are people running 255's on the front with +10 offsets on 9.5 inch front wheels. I believe I've even read 265's on the front.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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have them mount tire onto wheel and install on the car yourself and see if there is an issue.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:38 AM
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Maybe they did not remove the bolts on the rotors.
Stock wheels 18x9 +30 with 245's fit with room to spare
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:42 AM
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lolol prolly the little bolt thing on the rotor.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 08:45 AM
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^^thats exactly what I was thinking when I opened the thread. Check the 100 Common Questions Thread. You could gain a lot of valuable information in that thread.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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^^thats exactly what I was thinking when I opened the thread. Check the 100 Common Questions Thread. You could gain a lot of valuable information in that thread.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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Did the shop actually try to mount the wheels or do the just "know" they will not fit? If the tires actually hit the steering knuckle, you could probably space them out slightly with some 5 or 10 mm spacers.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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$5 bolt on rotor
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 09:47 AM
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If the shop is stumped by the bolt on the rotor - then they ought not be in business anymore. They certainly shouldn't be mounting aftermarket wheels.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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I test fit the wheels without tires about a week ago. Rears were no problem. The fronts had about 1/4" clearance between the back of the rim and the steering knuckle. Apparently you're supposed to shoot for at least and inch of clearance there? They never actually mounted the tire, he just did some measurements and said that the tire would be right up against it. It's not the bolt on the rotor... I left them a wordy note to tell them about that. He drew a picture (not to scale obviously). I hear what you guys are saying and thats why this makes no sense to me. I went a little conservative on the offset so I didn't think I'd have any problems. I think a spacer would resolve the issue... but how much?
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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7 mm spacer should work, but first...
Check those rim specs and be sure they are not +47 instead.. like for the 370z.
Should be marked on the inside
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:36 AM
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Keep in mind that everybodys favorite setup is 9½" +22 up front. Your +27 is about 5mm or ¼" closer on the inside. A 5-7mm spacer would definitely help.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 10:39 AM
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Yes, I just checked the stamp on the inner barrel, +27 (O-Disk). So with a 7mm spacer netting me an offset of +20 in the front would work then? Looks like going "conservative" on the offsets actually bit me in the *** Not sure I'm feeling the idea of slip fit spacers. The Ichiba V2's only come 15mm and larger. Would the 10mm from Eibach do the trick?
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 11:04 AM
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Absolute bull. My front is a 9.5" iForged with similar offset and I run a 275 on it. It's a tight fit but it definitely works. That's almost an additional inch of tire, and 10mm less internal clearance.

I'd take it somewhere else. If for some reason they are right, you can always get a small spacer for clearance, but I doubt that is the case...I think they think they are more of an engineer than a tire shop employee.

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Jimster88
I test fit the wheels without tires about a week ago. Rears were no problem. The fronts had about 1/4" clearance between the back of the rim and the steering knuckle. Apparently you're supposed to shoot for at least and inch of clearance there? They never actually mounted the tire, he just did some measurements and said that the tire would be right up against it. It's not the bolt on the rotor... I left them a wordy note to tell them about that. He drew a picture (not to scale obviously). I hear what you guys are saying and thats why this makes no sense to me. I went a little conservative on the offset so I didn't think I'd have any problems. I think a spacer would resolve the issue... but how much?
Shops will often err on the side of caution. They do not want you returning complaining that the wheel is hitting the suspension. Will a 10 mm spacer fix the problem?

NOTE: Remember that the wheel clears the suspension with NO weight on the tire.

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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^^ I agree with David. If a shop does mainly stock setups, they may not be comfortable with a custom wheel/tire setup; fearing either failure or customer complaints.

A shop that does custom setups can mount a mock-up that tests clearance and fitment (wheel offset with a specific tire size). If all is right with the wheel's offset, a spacer may not be necessay.

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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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I have 19x9.5 e22 with 275/35's and no problems.
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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they should be able to mount them fine, there probably just scared of customer complaints just like everyone else said. I say just look around your area for another shop that has done custom wheel setups before so, then you dont have to worry.
goodluck bro
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Old Aug 13, 2010 | 06:00 PM
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Alright thanks guys. I'm going to look around for another shop. They're pretty scarce around here for some reason... and I'm avoiding CJ's/Pep Boys and the like for obvious reasons. I don't want teenagers fingering up my $3000 rims... The shop I went to has been around since before I was born... so I figured they knew their stuff.

I had a thought while at work though. I did notice some things about the car that point to possibly being in a front end collision of some kind (front bumper has definitely been resprayed, and the FRONT wheels had decently new tires but the REARS still had the ones from the factory on them). Is it possible something is bent or something? I'd think I would notice when driving it... but the thing handles like a dream like it should so I don't know.

It's just irritating because this custom wheels business just turns into a big long waiting game. I ordered these on May 1st. Thanks again... I'll keep yas posted.
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