Varrstoen Wheels Thread
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hate? Please read my sig line, it applies to you.
Reasons to do what i mention.
1. Proper height tires, speedo will read correctly. -Which only matters when you plan on speeding. 3-4 mph off won't get you a ticket that "proper" tires wouldn't have.
2. slightly higher ride height when the suspension is adjusted to the new tires.-new tires that aren't needed so that's a moot point.
3. With the higher height, you will gain ground clearance, making the car more drivable.- more drivable compared to what? If the car takes him everywhere he needs to go, why does it need to be MORE drivable. To that logic, if we lifted our cars to truck heights, it would make it even MORE drivable..until we hit that fine line between height and center of gravity.
4. Less camber wear to tires.-valid
5. Will have more suspension travel for a smoother ride, also safer for everyone out on the road.-the assumption is that his car is not smooth now. since this isn't the era of cut springs, MOST cars can ride low and be smooth. Obviously you feel the road more, but that does not negate smoothness. Under that logic, nobody should set their car up for track duty since that will reduce smoothness. I fail to see how that makes the car more or less safe.
6. Camber back to a reasonable area, more contact patch, making the car safer to drive and safer for everyone that shares the roadway.-semi valid in regards to contact patch and to debunk the argument of safety would be asinine on my part. Even though you're stretching on this, I'll give it to you.
I will leave it at that, I could probably come up with a few more. So what benifits are there to leaving it at the level it is now? It looks like an idiot picked the wrong offset wheels, and 2 year old set the suspension and the car is unsafe to the others around it.
Reasons to do what i mention.
1. Proper height tires, speedo will read correctly. -Which only matters when you plan on speeding. 3-4 mph off won't get you a ticket that "proper" tires wouldn't have.
2. slightly higher ride height when the suspension is adjusted to the new tires.-new tires that aren't needed so that's a moot point.
3. With the higher height, you will gain ground clearance, making the car more drivable.- more drivable compared to what? If the car takes him everywhere he needs to go, why does it need to be MORE drivable. To that logic, if we lifted our cars to truck heights, it would make it even MORE drivable..until we hit that fine line between height and center of gravity.
4. Less camber wear to tires.-valid
5. Will have more suspension travel for a smoother ride, also safer for everyone out on the road.-the assumption is that his car is not smooth now. since this isn't the era of cut springs, MOST cars can ride low and be smooth. Obviously you feel the road more, but that does not negate smoothness. Under that logic, nobody should set their car up for track duty since that will reduce smoothness. I fail to see how that makes the car more or less safe.
6. Camber back to a reasonable area, more contact patch, making the car safer to drive and safer for everyone that shares the roadway.-semi valid in regards to contact patch and to debunk the argument of safety would be asinine on my part. Even though you're stretching on this, I'll give it to you.
I will leave it at that, I could probably come up with a few more. So what benifits are there to leaving it at the level it is now? It looks like an idiot picked the wrong offset wheels, and 2 year old set the suspension and the car is unsafe to the others around it.
I'm done with it. I guess people will dislike what people dislike.
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He seems accurate. I think it's safe to assume that Terrasmack hates stance. That, by definition, makes him a hater. I guess we're all a hater of something though. I hate silent farts. So when someone silent farts, I'm like "I HATE THAT I SMELL THAT AND DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING!!!! HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE!!" and then they're all like "use a HATER" and I'm all like "SHO'U'RITE".
He seems accurate. I think it's safe to assume that Terrasmack hates stance. That, by definition, makes him a hater. I guess we're all a hater of something though. I hate silent farts. So when someone silent farts, I'm like "I HATE THAT I SMELL THAT AND DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING!!!! HATEHATEHATEHATEHATE!!" and then they're all like "use a HATER" and I'm all like "SHO'U'RITE".
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Nothing wrong with that setup. I think most people who do "stance" go for internet fame. I mean, my setup is WAY less functional than that, but there's two setups I've been contemplating that will be more functional yet still in that scope. That, and the performance mods I have planned deem it necessary. It's physically impossible to keep my car where it is and do what I ultimately have always wanted to do.
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Quick question do most people take out there fender liners? i am going to have to but is this the common practice just curious. Thanks
mine 19x9.5 19x10.5 +12 255/35/19 285/35/19
mine 19x9.5 19x10.5 +12 255/35/19 285/35/19
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You will need to remove your liners. The other option is to just drive until it rubs out. I wouldn't recommend that option though. It's loud and annoying.
The white wheels look nice. Do you have some low-dust brake pads installed? And I would also recommend getting some Armor-All wheel protectant spray to keep those babies as clean as possible.
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How do 19's ride for you guys? I'm debating between 18's or 19's and I'm going to be lowered about 1.5" all the way around. Also between +12 and +22 which would look better? I heard 19's were rough, just wanted to know for sure. Also what size do you recommend for the height if I go with 19's? 35 series?
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How do 19's ride for you guys? I'm debating between 18's or 19's and I'm going to be lowered about 1.5" all the way around. Also between +12 and +22 which would look better? I heard 19's were rough, just wanted to know for sure. Also what size do you recommend for the height if I go with 19's? 35 series?
I'd recommend 19x9.5/10.5 +12, more pokey setup than the +22, looks great.
Also I believe your tire knowledge may be wrong because sidewall height (eg 35) is an aspect ratio of the tire width and cannot be considered by itself without the width context
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When I changed from 18s to 19s, the difference was not noticeable to me at all comfort-wise.
I'd recommend 19x9.5/10.5 +12, more pokey setup than the +22, looks great.
Also I believe your tire knowledge may be wrong because sidewall height (eg 35) is an aspect ratio of the tire width and cannot be considered by itself without the width context
I'd recommend 19x9.5/10.5 +12, more pokey setup than the +22, looks great.
Also I believe your tire knowledge may be wrong because sidewall height (eg 35) is an aspect ratio of the tire width and cannot be considered by itself without the width context
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Thanks Taryon, what tire sizes do you have assuming you have the same wheel specs? I don't want to be too stretched so I don't think the usual set up of 245/35 and 275/35 will work. With +12 and being lowered only about 1.5" you think I'll have to roll the quarters and fenders or just the quarters?
I'm not sure how much I'm lowered but a safe bet would be you would have to roll your rear fenders, not sure what you mean about the the quarters
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What offset on these ES1's? Pics Provided
Hey guys. So I found this Z that I fell in love with and didnt get a chance to talk to the owner but I wrote down the tire sizes. I love this beefy look and im planning on going with the ES1's set up just like you see in the pic. Could any ones expert judgment guess to what offset and wheel width he might be running? the tire sizes are 285/35 18 rears and 255/35 18 front. I really like how the fronts are tucked in a little so you can go nice and low, and how the backs are pretty flush. Gives an aggressive street/drag look in my opinion, which is what I would like. Any help would be great, Thanks!
