View Poll Results: Which tire for best dry/wet performance w/ reasonable $
Yokohama Advan Neova AD08
5
26.32%
Yokohama Advan Sport
1
5.26%
Bridgestone S001
1
5.26%
Other choice, please share with me
12
63.16%
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Max Performance Summer Tires Choice
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Max Performance Summer Tires Choice
Hi everyone,
I've just paid a deposit to order a set of 19" TE37-SL with a local shop here. I'm trying to figure out what tires with the below specification that I should choose. Can someone shed some light please?
245/35/19
275/35/19
Thanks in advance.
I've just paid a deposit to order a set of 19" TE37-SL with a local shop here. I'm trying to figure out what tires with the below specification that I should choose. Can someone shed some light please?
245/35/19
275/35/19
Thanks in advance.
My Choice
Hey,I have the same rims19/9.5
for the front and 19/10.5 back.I used 255 on the front with -4
degree camber and lowered.I
used 305 with stock camber and lowered.The tires fill the wheel wells very much to capacity.On the fronts I had 245 to start but
with this width of rim the tire did not seat very well on the rim lip.
The 255 on the front look better also.
for the front and 19/10.5 back.I used 255 on the front with -4
degree camber and lowered.I
used 305 with stock camber and lowered.The tires fill the wheel wells very much to capacity.On the fronts I had 245 to start but
with this width of rim the tire did not seat very well on the rim lip.
The 255 on the front look better also.
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Well, assuming you ordered 19x9.5 and 19x10.5, your 245/35R19 and 275/35R19 tire choices would look somewhat streched. Nothing bad of course, I just prefer the meatier look of the wider setup. Check out the numerous Volk Wheels threads and you'll see the various tire sizes people use.
Tires change over the years. Many of those are not made any more, and some that are, compounds have been altered. A CS report from ~2003 isn't going to help you at this point
Your best bet OP is 1. set a budget and 2. visit with some local Z owners, and see what they are using. Viewing test results from any source on any car but a Z is a bit useless. If you are going to use anecdotal info from other car owners, try to match it to cars of a similar weight and suspension layout/drivetrain to a Z, to at least get you in the ballpark. Tires behave vastly differently from one car to another, and what works amazingly well on one type of vehicle, can be absolute doo-doo on another. Also, if you're not located in the US this will be a pretty futile request as tires (and compounds) vary by country. The inclusion of the S001 tipped me that you may not be in the US, as that tire is only brought here in 20 inch sizes as I recall
What size wheels did you get? What offsets? What are you looking for in your tire choice when you say "max performance summer". Is tire wear important? Is noise important? Is wet weather performance important? Do temperatures change where you live? Is comfort important? Or, do you just want all out grip? All of these may be important factors that people just tossing out names are not necessarily going to be in tune with.
I disagree with the "18's or bust" statement. Tons of cars that run circles around a Z on the street or track, stock or modded, have wheels larger than 18 inch from stock. Most cars in fact. Regardless of the size of the wheel, the tire is still the single most important performance oriented mod one can do to this, or any other car. A good tire makes any car shine, a poor one will make any car suck (regardless of other handling mods done to it)
Your best bet OP is 1. set a budget and 2. visit with some local Z owners, and see what they are using. Viewing test results from any source on any car but a Z is a bit useless. If you are going to use anecdotal info from other car owners, try to match it to cars of a similar weight and suspension layout/drivetrain to a Z, to at least get you in the ballpark. Tires behave vastly differently from one car to another, and what works amazingly well on one type of vehicle, can be absolute doo-doo on another. Also, if you're not located in the US this will be a pretty futile request as tires (and compounds) vary by country. The inclusion of the S001 tipped me that you may not be in the US, as that tire is only brought here in 20 inch sizes as I recall
What size wheels did you get? What offsets? What are you looking for in your tire choice when you say "max performance summer". Is tire wear important? Is noise important? Is wet weather performance important? Do temperatures change where you live? Is comfort important? Or, do you just want all out grip? All of these may be important factors that people just tossing out names are not necessarily going to be in tune with.
I disagree with the "18's or bust" statement. Tons of cars that run circles around a Z on the street or track, stock or modded, have wheels larger than 18 inch from stock. Most cars in fact. Regardless of the size of the wheel, the tire is still the single most important performance oriented mod one can do to this, or any other car. A good tire makes any car shine, a poor one will make any car suck (regardless of other handling mods done to it)
Last edited by Z1 Performance; May 1, 2011 at 08:01 AM.
I currently have Advan Sports. Overall I'm pretty happy with the tire except for the treadwear. Rear tires are shot in about 18,000km. Dry and wet grip is good, tires are quiet (until they wear down), and fairly comfortable. I'm not an aggressive driver most of the time, and only mods are bolt ons. Fronts wear pretty good, I think I've gone through about 3 sets of rears for 1 set of fronts. The only reason I now have to replace the fronts is due to camber wear.
Because the rears wear out so fast, I'm looking to change to something else. Currently considering Michelin Pilot Super Sport or Bridgestone RE-11. The only thing about the bridgestones that bug me is that they don't come in a 245/19 size that works; have to go 255/285. The fact that the tire itself sits wider than others makes me worried that I will have rubbing issues with the 255 and I don't want to do fender mods. Also concerned that the RE-11 will be noisy, which is an issue for me since I go on a few long road trips each year.
As far as I can tell, the only drawback to the Michelins is price. They are well loved on the BMW forums (and others) as one of the best all around max performance street tires. They also come in lots of sizes.
I've also had Falken fk452's in stock 18" sizes and they were crap. Hated everything about those tires. No grip, lots of noise, squirmy on high speed corners. Will never buy those again.
Because the rears wear out so fast, I'm looking to change to something else. Currently considering Michelin Pilot Super Sport or Bridgestone RE-11. The only thing about the bridgestones that bug me is that they don't come in a 245/19 size that works; have to go 255/285. The fact that the tire itself sits wider than others makes me worried that I will have rubbing issues with the 255 and I don't want to do fender mods. Also concerned that the RE-11 will be noisy, which is an issue for me since I go on a few long road trips each year.
As far as I can tell, the only drawback to the Michelins is price. They are well loved on the BMW forums (and others) as one of the best all around max performance street tires. They also come in lots of sizes.
I've also had Falken fk452's in stock 18" sizes and they were crap. Hated everything about those tires. No grip, lots of noise, squirmy on high speed corners. Will never buy those again.
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Your best bet OP is 1. set a budget and 2. visit with some local Z owners, and see what they are using. Viewing test results from any source on any car but a Z is a bit useless. If you are going to use anecdotal info from other car owners, try to match it to cars of a similar weight and suspension layout/drivetrain to a Z, to at least get you in the ballpark. Tires behave vastly differently from one car to another, and what works amazingly well on one type of vehicle, can be absolute doo-doo on another. Also, if you're not located in the US this will be a pretty futile request as tires (and compounds) vary by country. The inclusion of the S001 tipped me that you may not be in the US, as that tire is only brought here in 20 inch sizes as I recall
What size wheels did you get? What offsets? What are you looking for in your tire choice when you say "max performance summer". Is tire wear important? Is noise important? Is wet weather performance important? Do temperatures change where you live? Is comfort important? Or, do you just want all out grip? All of these may be important factors that people just tossing out names are not necessarily going to be in tune with.
What size wheels did you get? What offsets? What are you looking for in your tire choice when you say "max performance summer". Is tire wear important? Is noise important? Is wet weather performance important? Do temperatures change where you live? Is comfort important? Or, do you just want all out grip? All of these may be important factors that people just tossing out names are not necessarily going to be in tune with.
Yes, you are right. I'm actually in Hong Kong, China, with a temperate and hot climate. Temperature in the summer ranges from 25-33C with a relatively high humidity.
My wheels specifications are
19*9.5 offset 22,
19*10.5 offset 22, and
my ride is slightly lowered by around 0.75 inch by Tein Monoflex.
When I said "max summer performance", I'm looking for a set of tires with very good performance in the dry, performance in the wet would be useful as well as it rains a lot in the summer in Hong Kong. Tire wear, noise, and comfort are all irrelevant factors for me.
Furthermore, from my research and understanding, 255/35 and 285/35 would be closer to stock size (in terms of outer diameter) than 245/35 and 275/35. Am I correct?
Thanks everyone again for your comments. I've been doing some research since my last post.
Yes, you are right. I'm actually in Hong Kong, China, with a temperate and hot climate. Temperature in the summer ranges from 25-33C with a relatively high humidity.
My wheels specifications are
19*9.5 offset 22,
19*10.5 offset 22, and
my ride is slightly lowered by around 0.75 inch by Tein Monoflex.
When I said "max summer performance", I'm looking for a set of tires with very good performance in the dry, performance in the wet would be useful as well as it rains a lot in the summer in Hong Kong. Tire wear, noise, and comfort are all irrelevant factors for me.
Furthermore, from my research and understanding, 255/35 and 285/35 would be closer to stock size (in terms of outer diameter) than 245/35 and 275/35. Am I correct?
Yes, you are right. I'm actually in Hong Kong, China, with a temperate and hot climate. Temperature in the summer ranges from 25-33C with a relatively high humidity.
My wheels specifications are
19*9.5 offset 22,
19*10.5 offset 22, and
my ride is slightly lowered by around 0.75 inch by Tein Monoflex.
When I said "max summer performance", I'm looking for a set of tires with very good performance in the dry, performance in the wet would be useful as well as it rains a lot in the summer in Hong Kong. Tire wear, noise, and comfort are all irrelevant factors for me.
Furthermore, from my research and understanding, 255/35 and 285/35 would be closer to stock size (in terms of outer diameter) than 245/35 and 275/35. Am I correct?
Actual speed 100.0 MPH. Speedometer will read 99.35 MPH. This is good.
+1 for the Bridgestone RE-11 
It is currently ranked #1 in the extreme performance summer tire category on tirerack.com
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...y.jsp?ttid=118
The RE-11 also performed well in their wet tests with good grip and handling...
The RE-11 is also available in 255/35R19 and 285/35R19 sizes.
It is currently ranked #1 in the extreme performance summer tire category on tirerack.com
Tires Tested:
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 (Extreme Performance Summer 225/45R17)
Bridgestone Potenza RE-11 (Extreme Performance Summer 225/45R17)
- What We Liked: Excellent road manners and wet grip
- What We'd Improve: Improve steering response slightly
- Conclusion: An Extreme Performance Summer tire you can live with during day-to-day driving
- Latest Test Rank: 1st
- Previous Test Rank: Not previously tested
The RE-11 also performed well in their wet tests with good grip and handling...
Things were just as close in the wet, too, with the Potenza RE-11 edging out the others by the slimmest of margins. In addition to the fastest lap time, the RE-11 was able to generate the highest average g forces and the fastest slalom segment time of this test thanks to its high level of wet grip and predictable handling.
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