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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 06:58 AM
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I may be in the market for some wheels in the next few months depending on my finacial situation. Being in college, I shouldnt buy the Work Emotions that I want, so I wont at this time, but I may get Rota Torques which look similar. Everyone here always recommends getting the high end wheels (ie work volk etc) but what about the mid grade ones?

What are the wheel companies that you would feel safe putting on your car? Obviously stay away from ebay knockoffs but what should I be looking for when searching through rim specs? And does anyone have experience with rota and their quality?
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:04 AM
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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cute, forsure. but that was a legitimate question. After seeing the thread about the evos rim exploding im leary about anything except the top brands. But just like every product type (radios, cell phones, paints) there are different levels a quality, not just bad ones and good ones.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:18 AM
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Vivid doesn't sell Rota, XXR, or Drag for a few reasons. We've sold Drag in the past when a customer specifically requests them but that's only because one of our tire distributors offers Drag wheels.

My issue with knock-off wheels (besides the theft of intellectual property) is that their heavy and use cast construction. Cast wheels just don't stand up to damage like a forged wheel does. When a forged wheel (Rays, Volk, SSR, BBS, etc) gets damaged it tends to stay in one piece. Cast wheels tend not to.

With that said, I recommend sticking with some OEM wheels or Enkei. Enkei doesn't rip off other peoples designs and they're very affordable. Forgestar is also an option. We're direct with both (as well as most of the wheels seen at Vividracing.com) so we've got the best pricing possible on them. If you see any wheels from that link that you like, feel free to PM me with questions.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:20 AM
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cute, forsure. but that was a legitimate question. After seeing the thread about the evos rim exploding im leary about anything except the top brands. But just like every product type (radios, cell phones, paints) there are different levels a quality, not just bad ones and good ones.
False. You have to spend $10k on wheels or you're a DUMMY!!

Check out the brands I mentioned in the last paragraph of my post above. Also, I've got a few sets of wheels that are on clearance right now. What's your budget?
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:22 AM
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 07:24 AM
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Vivid doesn't sell Rota, XXR, or Drag for a few reasons. We've sold Drag in the past when a customer specifically requests them but that's only because one of our tire distributors offers Drag wheels.

My issue with knock-off wheels (besides the theft of intellectual property) is that their heavy and use cast construction. Cast wheels just don't stand up to damage like a forged wheel does. When a forged wheel (Rays, Volk, SSR, BBS, etc) gets damaged it tends to stay in one piece. Cast wheels tend not to.

With that said, I recommend sticking with some OEM wheels or Enkei. Enkei doesn't rip off other peoples designs and they're very affordable. Forgestar is also an option. We're direct with both (as well as most of the wheels seen at Vividracing.com) so we've got the best pricing possible on them. If you see any wheels from that link that you like, feel free to PM me with questions.
Thank you for your quality post. So anything forged is the way to go. My budget isnt set up but i didnt want to pay much over 300/rim unless I had to. I live in a college town and frankly a set of work wheels would disappear pretty quickly i think. crime has gone up recently.

Also, your website is having some sql problems and rendering errors but I'll keep you in mind when I'm looking for a set.

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$300 a wheel is perfect for Enkei . Then Rota is a good quality cast wheel , little cheaper, little heavier than an Enkei but they are a knockoff design.
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Yea, seriously though, Enkei is a good option and don't forget to check out used wheels in the marketplace.
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I see enkeis PF01 is the design I'm looking for. That may be my best route without spending a fortune
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If you like the PF01 then you should also look at the 19" G35 rims since you will probably like that design as well.
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Originally Posted by aroundmyhorn
yea, seriously though, enkei is a good option and don't forget to check out used wheels in the marketplace.
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by dikspiel
If you like the PF01 then you should also look at the 19" G35 rims since you will probably like that design as well.
eh close but no cigar.

Now that Im looking on vivids site i noticed the work cr-kai have an offset choice. I like the sound of the 12 or 20 offset and for only 100 more it may be worth it. That and I see they have a payment plan

This could be bad. or good depending on how you look at it.
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Members often buy wheels that do not suit their needs. $8,000 wheels for a garage queen is smart. Driven on sunny weekends only, the wheels will always look good.

On the other hand is the daily driver. Especially a year-round Z in the snow belt. Here is where members should use common sense. The delicate $8,000 wheels for the garage queen are not appropriate here.

Its not the brand that will endure abuse - it is the finish. A simple painted wheel, waxed in the spring and fall, will last tens of thousands of miles.



Above is an example of a wheel that is not suitable for a daily driven in the snow belt. Matte finish spokes look great. But polished stainless steel barrel is not durable. Photo courtesy of jebz240.



Above is an example of a durable matte finish. Matte finish will survive snow, salt, road debris. Easy cleaning with soap and water. This finish will tolerate lots of abuse.

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Since when did rotas become a mid-grade wheel?

Grab some SSR yo.
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Vividracing generally has a high markup on their website...best bet would be to get a quote elsewhere and then see if they will beat it.
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Vividracing generally has a high markup on their website...best bet would be to get a quote elsewhere and then see if they will beat it.
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Originally Posted by davidv
Members often buy wheels that do not suit their needs. $8,000 wheels for a garage queen is smart. Driven on sunny weekends only, the wheels will always look good.

On the other hand is the daily driver. Especially a year-round Z in the snow belt. Here is where members should use common sense. The delicate $8,000 wheels for the garage queen are not appropriate here.

Its not the brand that will endure abuse - it is the finish. A simple painted wheel, waxed in the spring and fall, will last tens of thousands of miles.
So are you implying work wheels are delicate wheels? or just the finish?
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Originally Posted by LuciaPwNs
So are you implying work wheels are delicate wheels? or just the finish?
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Old Dec 9, 2011 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Flo-ridaZ33
Finish
I was worried about the offset of the enkeis on the site but I guess I should see if vivid can get the enkei PF01 in the 15+ offset that the enkei site says they come in.
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