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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Anyone know what wheel studs will work on a 2003 Enthusiast?

I got 20 of these
http://www.performancenissanparts.co...roducts_id=161

And went to put them on today, they don't fit. They are too small in diameter and spin freely in the hub, won't seat in there.

Now the car is on the lift as I seem to have completely worn out the stock studs this season, I have broken/stripped at least 12 of them over the past 6 months of autocross. Today I stripped 2, not a happy camper.

I believe I torqued them all too much for a few months, and they are failing one by one, or two by two, now when changing tires. My plan was to just replace them all, but that was to no avail.

Anyone have any suggestions?
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Old Sep 8, 2004 | 10:24 PM
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A little secret to keeping wheel studs from stripping is using anti-seize on them. You can buy a bottle at napa for about $8. I haven't broken a stud since I've been using it.
I'm sure perf nissan can straighten out the sizing issue, but if they can't then give H&R a try.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 04:04 AM
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I've got some antizseize ready to go on later today when I get the car back together.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 05:32 AM
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what is anti-seize?
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 05:41 AM
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Well, I figured out the most likely problem.

I got part number 40222 RS025 as that's what Performance Nissan lists on their site as the proper part.

According to www.nissanusa.com's nismo section the 350Z Part is the 40222 RS045

Now hopefully PerfNissan can overnight me a set of the proper studs
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 05:46 AM
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Looking at Nissan's site again I am not sure what studs fit the 350Z, as they list both the RS025 and RS045 as fitting....

I do know that the RS025 sure as heck doesn't fit...


http://www.nissanusa.com/content/0,,...anding,00.html
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 06:06 AM
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Probably a stupid question but...will anti-seize allow the lug bolts to work themselves off by themselves?
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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Probably a stupid question but...will anti-seize allow the lug bolts to work themselves off by themselves?
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Nope, they just dont allow a chemical bond to be had between the bolt and the stud. Trust me, many shops use antisieze, if the wheels fell off of customers cars on a regular basis, they'd all be in a world of ****.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 08:03 AM
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PerformanceNissan is sending me the proper studs. I ordered the wrong set due to bad wording on the Nismo items, but PerfNissan has been great to work with! Hope to have the new set on Monday in Topeka and get them switched out!

The anti-seize is to just help keep me from breaking studs. Shouldn't have problems with them backing off if properly torqued.
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:04 AM
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Good luck in Topeka

What is the nissan torque spec for the wheels anyways?

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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by daveh
What is the nissan torque spec for the wheels anyways?
80 ft-lbs
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 09:30 AM
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i think it is 80 pounds
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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I can tell you what torqueing (sp?) them to 100lbs does
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Old Sep 9, 2004 | 11:50 AM
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Good luck in Topeka man. What day are you guys running? Any TV coverage?
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Thanks for the support guys.

We run on Tuesday/Wednesday. Unfortunately no TV coverage, but I will have video up the week after nationals.
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Be VERY careful people! Lug nut torque is specked out with DRY threads! Adding anti-seize will allow too much of a reduction in friction, giving the stud way too much stretch while achieving equal torque readings, prematurely fatiguing the stud.

DO NOT USE ANY lubricant on the threads!!!!!!!

These fasteners are NOT like engine fasteners, where the fasteners are specked out with lubricated threads.
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:16 AM
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Originally posted by EnthuZ
Be VERY careful people! Lug nut torque is specked out with DRY threads! Adding anti-seize will allow too much of a reduction in friction, giving the stud way too much stretch while achieving equal torque readings, prematurely fatiguing the stud.

DO NOT USE ANY lubricant on the threads!!!!!!!

These fasteners are NOT like engine fasteners, where the fasteners are specked out with lubricated threads.

Exactly what I was going to post, but you beat me to it!


good luck in topeka!!!

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I thought I told you they shipped the wrong studs by accident and I had the correct ones expressed to you.

good luck there!
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Old Sep 10, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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You did Jason, I posted this before I had talked to you. Should have them installed and ready to go on monday!

I do appreciate the service that I've received from Performance Nissan,they've been helpful and understanding of my time crunch before nationals!
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Originally posted by christoc
PerformanceNissan is sending me the proper studs. I ordered the wrong set due to bad wording on the Nismo items, but PerfNissan has been great to work with! Hope to have the new set on Monday in Topeka and get them switched out!

The anti-seize is to just help keep me from breaking studs. Shouldn't have problems with them backing off if properly torqued.
Same thing happened to me last year. The studs are in the wrong category on their website, they had to send me a new set.
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