Time for a rebuild. Valvetrain, Cams, Port
#41
First start, monitoring oil pressure/coolant temp/leaks. Didn't get to drive it breaking it in yet though since there's still a bit of air in the coolant keeping temps around 200 degrees Fahrenheit, slightly high. Going to let it sit overnight so the air bubbles consolidate and hopefully get the last majority of them out tomorrow morning.
Going to throw the gopro on the window tomorrow during break in, and see how she sounds on the road! So far so good though!
I noticed oil pressure was high initially, but in retrospect, realize this was probably normal due to 1. Higher idle (1,000RPM) for cams, and 2. Possible differences in the new rev-up oil pump vs original non-rev-up.
Going to throw the gopro on the window tomorrow during break in, and see how she sounds on the road! So far so good though!
I noticed oil pressure was high initially, but in retrospect, realize this was probably normal due to 1. Higher idle (1,000RPM) for cams, and 2. Possible differences in the new rev-up oil pump vs original non-rev-up.
Last edited by mcarther101; 10-14-2013 at 11:04 PM.
#45
Thanks! Got the air bubbles out tonight with jacks/squeezing of hoses/funneling fluid into radiator while running lol.
Drove ~5 miles with my mechanic in the passenger seat monitoring temps w/ his scanner. All felt good, so I took her home breaking the engine in along the way. I probably looked like a crazy person, but tossed my hazards on occasionally and waved cars behind me on. Constantly accelerating/engine-braking from 2k-4k RPM for ~40 miles.
Car sounds and feels healthy. Engine pulls really strong, and I wasn't even near WOT or past 4k RPM. Really excited to get to 1,000 miles and let her rip. I do have some serious metal on metal vibrations in my exhaust though, must be rubbing somewhere... like stupid loud vibrations. Going to have to take a look at how the exhaust sits again on a lift.
Recorded the first drive on GoPro... but shitty camera f'kd me. I hate these camera's sometimes. Damn things turn themselves off randomly. Oh well... here's another iPhone video until I can actually get something legit. What do you guys think that ticking noise is at the end, valve springs or something? Sounds like something is just expanding/contracting from heat, and new clearances I would imagine. Also, I noticed power steering reservoir seemed to be like a little wave pool... this just from the cams shaking the car around a bit more? I can feel the cams at idle just sitting at a light, so think maybe that's what is making the power steering do that in the video. Steering feels fine, don't think it's boiling.
Some metal vibrations coming from inside my x-pipe? Could part of the catalytic converter broke off or metal from the old engine and be stuck in there?
Drove ~5 miles with my mechanic in the passenger seat monitoring temps w/ his scanner. All felt good, so I took her home breaking the engine in along the way. I probably looked like a crazy person, but tossed my hazards on occasionally and waved cars behind me on. Constantly accelerating/engine-braking from 2k-4k RPM for ~40 miles.
Car sounds and feels healthy. Engine pulls really strong, and I wasn't even near WOT or past 4k RPM. Really excited to get to 1,000 miles and let her rip. I do have some serious metal on metal vibrations in my exhaust though, must be rubbing somewhere... like stupid loud vibrations. Going to have to take a look at how the exhaust sits again on a lift.
Recorded the first drive on GoPro... but shitty camera f'kd me. I hate these camera's sometimes. Damn things turn themselves off randomly. Oh well... here's another iPhone video until I can actually get something legit. What do you guys think that ticking noise is at the end, valve springs or something? Sounds like something is just expanding/contracting from heat, and new clearances I would imagine. Also, I noticed power steering reservoir seemed to be like a little wave pool... this just from the cams shaking the car around a bit more? I can feel the cams at idle just sitting at a light, so think maybe that's what is making the power steering do that in the video. Steering feels fine, don't think it's boiling.
Some metal vibrations coming from inside my x-pipe? Could part of the catalytic converter broke off or metal from the old engine and be stuck in there?
Last edited by mcarther101; 10-16-2013 at 11:29 AM.
#46
Just got back from Z1 a bit ago... tired, but don't have to work until the afternoon so here's the results!
Had an exhaust leak, Jon thinks my spark plugs might be fouled (which I agree... since I didn't change them from running them in the last engine with failed piston rings which saw lots of oil), cops showed up, and then the dyno broke haha...
As expected, OEM plenum is holding the car back. Exhaust is just as good as any other exhaust IMO...
Had an exhaust leak, Jon thinks my spark plugs might be fouled (which I agree... since I didn't change them from running them in the last engine with failed piston rings which saw lots of oil), cops showed up, and then the dyno broke haha...
As expected, OEM plenum is holding the car back. Exhaust is just as good as any other exhaust IMO...
Last edited by mcarther101; 10-22-2013 at 01:27 AM.
#47
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To answer your question, yes, very much so I had stalling problems. I took it in for re-tuning 2 times to try and work this out along with some other stuff but ultimately it did not get fixed via tha tune. I think it is a vacuum problem, but I never really did anything about it. I read some stuff about adding a port between the plenum and a valve cover or something? But I couldn't tell you for sure.
For me, it would stall going to neutral at odd times, not neccessarily hard throttle but also coming out of 5th or 6th slowing down in neutral. I got really got at clutch kicking it back running. Try searching around for something like I said, I think it was on this forum somewhere, might have been the FI Section, dunno.
For me, it would stall going to neutral at odd times, not neccessarily hard throttle but also coming out of 5th or 6th slowing down in neutral. I got really got at clutch kicking it back running. Try searching around for something like I said, I think it was on this forum somewhere, might have been the FI Section, dunno.
#48
To answer your question, yes, very much so I had stalling problems. I took it in for re-tuning 2 times to try and work this out along with some other stuff but ultimately it did not get fixed via tha tune. I think it is a vacuum problem, but I never really did anything about it. I read some stuff about adding a port between the plenum and a valve cover or something? But I couldn't tell you for sure.
For me, it would stall going to neutral at odd times, not neccessarily hard throttle but also coming out of 5th or 6th slowing down in neutral. I got really got at clutch kicking it back running. Try searching around for something like I said, I think it was on this forum somewhere, might have been the FI Section, dunno.
For me, it would stall going to neutral at odd times, not neccessarily hard throttle but also coming out of 5th or 6th slowing down in neutral. I got really got at clutch kicking it back running. Try searching around for something like I said, I think it was on this forum somewhere, might have been the FI Section, dunno.
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Actually, I think cocky might be on to something. In the 87mm tb thread, they were talking about the titan guys who did this and they had to drill a small hole in the tb plate to prevent stalling. It could be that an undersized Idle Air Port in the TB could cause the stalling when the plate closes. If the hole is the answer here, it would make the pressure equalize faster which could prevent the stall condition.
#51
Interesting, makes sense. Large cams are probably sucking up all the air at idle, causing the engine to want to stall depending on where they are when I go neutral/clutch-in. My idle RPM is 1,000 which is higher than what you said you had yours set to with these cams though, which might explain why it is almost a non-issue for me. I'd say 1/100 times do I see this, maybe less. It's also totally eliminated by heel-toe downshifting, and going neutral when engine RPM settles to idle speed.
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