tivaj

Hi,

A friend of mine has just bought a 911 S-type. We were both going about Mph30 when we both floored it. To my shock, the Z did very well. By the time we hit Mph 90, he was something like 4 cars ahead of me. i think compared to the price difference, the Z is really kicks A**.

Regds

EdgeOfSanity

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not surprising at all in a straight line race, 911's dont make too much more power than our cars. Put both cars in the twisties with decent drivers and see what happens. The porsche is a much better car overall

FormulaRX

I don't really care for porsche...you're really just paying for the name because there are so many more cars that can stomp on porsches for a fraction of the price (I saw an STI walk all over a Carrera4S at the track) ... I'll stick to the Z thank you

EdgeOfSanity

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your paying for much more than a name, and i'll bet that the c4s was stock.

350zluvr

a 4-car lead within a 60 mph range is a huge difference.

Speaking of overpaying for the name, what other track ready 3.6 liter engine do you know of that produces 381 hp and 185 lb/ft of torque for $90,000? Not to even mention the handling. I love my Z and would probably never give it up for anything, but Porsches are in a completely different league altogether and that is the reason for the price tag.

by the way, there is no such thing as a 911 S-type. Porsches do not resemble Acuras or Hondas in their name badging. The vehicle's name is 911 Carrera S or 911C2S.

BENJ-AMG

Isn't the new 997 a 911 S?

EdgeOfSanity

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its actually 355hp and 295tq for the new 3.8L carrera S, and 320hp and 273tq for the S models built before 05 with the 3.6.

BENJ-AMG

Oops. Nevermind. Re-read it.

Spideynw

I'm sure you meant Porsche Carrera's are in a different league, since the Z does compete with a Porsche Boxter, for $20,000.00 less. Also, I'm sorry to say that part of what you pay for a Porsche IS the name. The new C6 Corvette is just as good as the new Porsche Carrera, but costs $25000.00 less. You just sound like a Porsche fanatic. Is Porsche a great company? Of course. However, are there vehicles that compete for much less $? Most resoundingly yes.

JonsilvZ

4 cars is a huge gap. Were you in the right gear?

EdgeOfSanity

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If you're talking stricly performance, then yes there are plenty of other cars that will kill any porsche under $100k. I'd much rather have a carrera S than anything else under 100k simply because i love the style and overall feel of these cars. Once you hit 911 turbo territory... there isnt anything else out there that can touch it for the price.

350zluvr

Yes, Ibelieve you are correct, and I should have made my last post clearer. I was referring to the GT3.

350zluvr

Yes I meant the Carrera league of the Porsche lineup. You are right in that you pay for the name, but that is the same with any vehicle. I bought my Z knowing that it was manufactured by Nissan, a company that is known for its reliability. When you look at an Aston Martin you pay a hefty price for the name, but you also receive exclusivity, exceptional designs, top of the line materials, and overall a piece of art and design genius that has to be taken to the shop every two weeks.

I think Corvettes are a steal, especially the new C6, as they offer the performance benefits of cars above their league and above their price.

To conclude, please don't forget that every vehicle's driving experience varies from one another and therefore a vette drives one way, while a Porsche GT3 will drive another. Surely a Civic can be upgraded to perform with the best of them, but in the end just because you can keep up with a ferrari does not mean that getting to point B yielded the same satisfaction or experience.

FormulaRX

very true

psantos

the only porsche i've run against was a boxer-s, and no offense, but it was silly. twin turbos might fix that 4 car gap. as for other cars, please tell me if this seems correct for the z to beat, because when i do beat them i kind of wonder if that's how it should be. please comment.

-c5 corvette (two of them)
-bmw z4
-sti wrx
-tt 300zx
-supra turbo
-integ w/ b20 (bros. car)

i know i shouldn't put the z4, but it's my neighbors. but what do y'all think?

Z-Stalker

Had two Porsches and and loved them both... It's a bit simplistic to compare performance vs. price between a Nissan and certain Porches. The Z is on par with how my 928 performed.. More of a cross between the 944 S2 and the 928 S4. However, the 928 was just a great car, only sold it because it was a hobby vehicle and I needed the money.

The 928 would eat the Z for lunch on an open road.. Top speed was about 170 in that car. The handling is similar.

Z-Stalker

aznmojo

some people prefer the Porsche experience. A fast car doesn't make it a good car. The overall soul of the car is what makes the car.

350zluvr

Psantos, If it is right or not does not matter. Whether they were full out racing you is another matter. A C5 vette, STI WRX (especially from a standstill), Z4 3.0 (by a hair) should all be faster than a Z... from what I hear and what I've experienced without fully racing any one of them.

The others are either very close to a 350Z or have very high potential with little mods.

Maybe you are just a really talented driver and the others you came across were moderate or poor drivers. As long as they were racing you, whatever you did or they did or didn't do works for a kill

TheLex

Here we go again with another nameplate battle. The fact of the matter is the Z is a Nissan with Nissan level parts. That means it's realiable, but the feel is just a bit above econobox. Yes, my Z is fast, handles well and all that stuff. But it in no way compares to what a 911 FEELS like. Until you've had a lot of time in both, it's hard to understand.

And yes, 4 car lengths is a pretty good spanking. That's not even close.

nitrousoxidex

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I love Porsches, except sometimes for their crappy interior design. I'm sure they can do better.