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Old Jun 14, 2005 | 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by bixby
+1. With VDC off you can pretty much burn the tires to the cord.
Me too. Tried practicing drifting in a parking lot and lit em up for quite a while with no shut down with the VDC off. I've had other people tell me it will kick in when you turn it off but never experienced it.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:47 AM
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Me too. Tried practicing drifting in a parking lot and lit em up for quite a while with no shut down with the VDC off. I've had other people tell me it will kick in when you turn it off but never experienced it.
I had my tires smoking all last night at the Infineon drags and I can and do hit the rev limiter when i heat up the tires before a race. My Pilot Sports like it and they dig in when i leave the line. I have never pulled the fuse on my Z.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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This is only if you want to press the brake pedal when doing a burnout to prevent you from moving forward. When you press the brake pedal and gas at the same time, the ECU cuts power off some power to the engine, and by taking the brake fuse out, this will not happen therefore you can press the brake pedal without any power loss....
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 01:06 PM
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What everyone is saying is that with just VDC off it allows the car to do a burnout. Everyone knows what a burnout is. They drop the clutch and gas hard, slide foot over to brake and pump the throttle to keep it burning.

When everyone is doing a burnout they are holding the brake otherwise its not a burnout with the Z, it will inch forward then hook. I've sat at the track with Drag Radials no fuse pulled and did burn outs. I notice if you apply to much brake the rear brakes kick in, so you don't want to press hard.

Maybe thats what the fuse is for. It limits the rear brake bias. I could see that?
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by barthelb
What everyone is saying is that with just VDC off it allows the car to do a burnout. Everyone knows what a burnout is. They drop the clutch and gas hard, slide foot over to brake and pump the throttle to keep it burning.

When everyone is doing a burnout they are holding the brake otherwise its not a burnout with the Z, it will inch forward then hook. I've sat at the track with Drag Radials no fuse pulled and did burn outs. I notice if you apply to much brake the rear brakes kick in, so you don't want to press hard.

Maybe thats what the fuse is for. It limits the rear brake bias. I could see that?
You have seen me burn out Bruce. I have the fuse in and I'm standing on the brake and the gas. I have to press very hard on my brake to keep from inching forward. I have stock brakes, but they will not hold the car unless I am pressing pretty hard.
BTW: the Infineon guys want to see the ZCG guys. I'm feeling good........I took out two Evo's last night....one head to head (must have been a crappy driver).
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 05:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Qbrozen
It does??? Hmmmm... interesting that I have had a few occassions where the car has stood completely still and smoked the tires all the way to the rev limiter in 1st gear. Are you SURE it closes the throttle with VDC off? If so... well ... i can't explain how I've done my burnouts.
I am sure that my car almost kills itself when I push down the brake to do a standing burnout. Apparently yours work differently. Now remember, I'm not talking about a little skid skid skid burnout, or burning while moving forward, or drifting. VDC off works for that. I'm talking about this. Posted it many times before, but this is good documentary footage. This is me at 7,100 RPM with the fuse pulled. I am not making stuff up here. With the fuse in, the car stalls when I try to do this stuff.

www.clemsonpilot.com\joez\Zburnout.wmv
www.clemsonpilot.com\joez\Zburnout2.wmv
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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WOW

Now thats a frigen burnout. I don't do them that long! I don't think anyone does but you! hahahhahah. I can do 1 half as long and dont have to pull the fuse. Same with fowlman01, he doesn't have to either and i've seen him light em up. Albeit not for 30 seconds but more like a good 10-15 second burnout.

Interesting the differences. What about models maybe it has something to do with the model. LSD or something. Mine is a touring. Yal?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:06 AM
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New tire time!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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That video was freakn' SWEET!!! I want more! Can you make a video doing that with the wind blowing the smoke all over a civic with one of those air plane wings on it?!! And then in the 2nd video, i noticed you shot fire out of your tale pipes after you took off doing about 30000 mph. BAD @SS!!!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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ok - so here's my question

I have a base model, so i don't have the LSD - when I spin them, it feels like i'm pulling w/ one tire only. If I do a burnout, will both tires eventually spin?

I'm eventually going to install the LSD. does anyone suggest an aftermarket setup for this? or should i have the nissan dealership do it?

also - can you add the cruise control functions to a Z w/o it?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by smitpsk
ok - so here's my question

I have a base model, so i don't have the LSD - when I spin them, it feels like i'm pulling w/ one tire only. If I do a burnout, will both tires eventually spin?

I'm eventually going to install the LSD. does anyone suggest an aftermarket setup for this? or should i have the nissan dealership do it?

also - can you add the cruise control functions to a Z w/o it?
With an open differential on almost any surface, you will be getting the one wheel burnout. You could either just swap it for the stock LSD from another Z or you could do something like the 350Evo 3.9 final drive for some serious acceleration.

Adding cruise to the Z would be very difficult cause it doesn't use a vacuum actuator like older cars but instead the computer.

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WOW

Now thats a frigen burnout. I don't do them that long! I don't think anyone does but you!
That's what I'm talking about! Thanks.

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That video was freakn' SWEET!!! I want more! Can you make a video doing that with the wind blowing the smoke all over a civic with one of those air plane wings on it?!! And then in the 2nd video, i noticed you shot fire out of your tale pipes after you took off doing about 30000 mph. BAD @SS!!!!!
Well, it'll be a while till I use up these PS2s, and at $500+ for the rears, I'm not gonna be smoking them soon. Now you bring up airplanes and their wings. Here's my other ride right now. She'll do 500 (not quite 30,000) and has ~5800 horses.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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Lil question here... I've got the performance 350z .. 04 ... when you drop the clutch after reving to bout 3k rpm... yes you get some wheel spin *and hopefully not wheel hop) ... but how can you step on the brakes at the same time??? Won't that cause your brakes to apply pressure to all four at the same time... Hydraulic forces apply equally!??? Yep ..so I wouldn't want to wear out my rear breaks or stress out my engine fighting my rear brakes to have wheel spin. Or does it not work that way? Set me straight if you know better
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Just disable VDC / TCS all together...

its easy...

7 phillps screws and pull a harnes...

eheheh
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by The Mike
Lil question here... I've got the performance 350z .. 04 ... when you drop the clutch after reving to bout 3k rpm... yes you get some wheel spin *and hopefully not wheel hop) ... but how can you step on the brakes at the same time??? Won't that cause your brakes to apply pressure to all four at the same time... Hydraulic forces apply equally!??? Yep ..so I wouldn't want to wear out my rear breaks or stress out my engine fighting my rear brakes to have wheel spin. Or does it not work that way? Set me straight if you know better
Oh, it's using all 4 brakes. But front brakes are stronger than rear ones.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:35 PM
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Is it possible to have some kind of "mode" switch ... and a perfect place would be the center console where I have two empty slots with just "dumb" buttons that don't do anything. The purpose of the mode switch would be to activate only front tire brakes and completely leave the back brakes untouched. Well I'm just wondering if that is a crazy idea or if it is do-able if i took my car to a performance shop to actually have done. If you have brembo's or big brake kit's I bet this becomes more stressful to the engine to do w/o some kind of setup like i'm suggesting.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 05:52 AM
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Yea, it's called a line lock.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DayBlueZ
Yea, it's called a line lock.
Can you explain how a line lock works?
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 07:59 AM
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http://www.hotrod.com/howto/49619/

How's this?
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 08:13 AM
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I thought i heard somewhere the Z couldn't install one as easy because the brake lines are crossed or something. Like the FR right is connected with the Left Rear. Not like traditional vehicles where the two fronts are connected. Can anyone explain better.
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