450z? WTF?
08-25-2005, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Sisko99
The race versions of the 350 (those running in the Grand Am series) are sporting a V8...
I've heard someone is working on a 350z to run in Grand Am, Rolex, GT class. Maybe they're using the 4.5 V8 for that series. It seems like they could get the job done with the 6 banger, but anything's possible.
Specs on the Unitech Z racecar ....
http://www.performancenissanracing.com/car.html
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08-25-2005, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Rosko
Just curious. Where did you get this information? I've read about the Unitech Z running in Grand Am Cup, and it's a v6. I might add that it keeps up with 911's and routinely passes them by the way
I've heard someone is working on a 350z to run in Grand Am, Rolex, GT class. Maybe they're using the 4.5 V8 for that series. It seems like they could get the job done with the 6 banger, but anything's possible.
Specs on the Unitech Z racecar ....
http://www.performancenissanracing.com/car.html
I've heard someone is working on a 350z to run in Grand Am, Rolex, GT class. Maybe they're using the 4.5 V8 for that series. It seems like they could get the job done with the 6 banger, but anything's possible.
Specs on the Unitech Z racecar ....
http://www.performancenissanracing.com/car.html
7-8 Engine
7-8.1 Changes to the OEM engine management system are permitted so long as the standard OEM hardware is not changed or altered.
OEM engine speed limiting device may be disconnected.
Eligible 1996 or later OBD II equipped model cars may replace the OEM engine management system with a Motec M4/GAC or M48/GAC engine management unit. The Porsche GT3 Cup model is not eligible.
7-8.2 The following components may be tooled enough for balancing only - pistons, rods, crankshaft, harmonic balancer, flywheel and clutch.
7-8.3 The lightest rod and piston must remain unaltered.
7-8.4 The crankshaft, flywheel and harmonic balancer may weigh no less than the OEM specification.
7-8.5 Only OEM pistons may be used, first and second size OEM pistons are permitted.
7-8.6 The oil pan and oil pick up may be modified (not the pump)
7-8.7 Engine oil Accu-sump system and valve is permitted
7-8.8 All pushrod engines may use aftermarket blueprinted or adjustable length pushrods, provided they are of the same material and configuration of the original.
7-8.9 Other items that may be replaced include cam gears, sprockets and chains.
7-8.10 The airbox and air filter are free on normally aspirated cars. Ram air induction is not permitted.
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08-25-2005, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by davidv
A 400Z or 450Z is always a possibility, but one of the drawbacks is weight distribution. The 350Z has about a front to rear weight distribution of 52 to 48 percent. Of course a bigger engine means added weight in front.
08-25-2005, 08:03 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
probably a GTR
Z's have always been V6 and RWD - not to say they can't change the formula, but who'd buy a GTR for $65k if you could buy pretty much the same car only badged as the Z for thousands of $ less?
Z's have always been V6 and RWD - not to say they can't change the formula, but who'd buy a GTR for $65k if you could buy pretty much the same car only badged as the Z for thousands of $ less?
Not to nitpick...well I guess this is nitpicking.
The old Z's were a straight 6.
08-26-2005, 01:13 AM
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This might be one of the many 'conjecture' articles that appeared in the autumn of 2004 when the first rumours of the GT4 version of the 350Z (launched in Europe) came out. As you might know, it was brought out in conjunction with the PS2 game Gran Turismo 4, but the rumour mill assumed it would be a GT-four in the Toyota sense; i.e. turbo'd and with all wheel drive. When it was launched in March this year, obviously that was not the case.
But I also found rumours of a 450Z on a Russian site dating back to September 2003 so it's anyone's guess ... !
But I also found rumours of a 450Z on a Russian site dating back to September 2003 so it's anyone's guess ... !
08-26-2005, 06:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Nano
Even Honda most glorious engines (formula 1 1000hp/liter) used forced induction.
08-26-2005, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rizlam
Oh yes
Williams Honda - 1984 to name but one year - with Turbo
Williams Honda - 1984 to name but one year - with Turbo
1986 Williams-Honda turbo... world champions
1987 Williams-Honda turbo... world champions
1988 Mclaren-Honda turbo... world champions
(note that honda then went on to win 1989, 1990 and 1991 with NA engines).
Before boost limitations were introduced(1988) Honda engine produced close to 1500bhp at ~75 pounds of boost in qualifying trim from a 1.5Liter engine. in 1988 Honda won 15-16 races, and if not by a silly mistake by Senna during last lap at monza, it would have won 16-16 races... Most dominant car in F1 history.
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08-26-2005, 01:26 PM
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My guess is this could be real.
They release the new Skyline in the USA as an Infinity.
So
Release the 450z as the upscale model Z or even new Z. Strip off most the expensive gadgets from the skyline to keep price down. De-Tune, etc. Wham, 450z.
They release the new Skyline in the USA as an Infinity.
So
Release the 450z as the upscale model Z or even new Z. Strip off most the expensive gadgets from the skyline to keep price down. De-Tune, etc. Wham, 450z.
08-26-2005, 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nano
Before boost limitations were introduced(1988) Honda engine produced close to 1500bhp at ~75 pounds of boost in qualifying trim from a 1.5Liter engine.
08-26-2005, 06:05 PM
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In a way I'm mad about the 450z and in a way I'm happy. I'm mad that nissan didn't come out with it earlier if that is the case it's going to drop on the u.s. market and it is going to cost alot more then any other nissan badge car. Then I'm happy to see the Z getting what it deserves more power. That's what I've been desiring since owning my Z after getting use to the power and losing to cars that looks like they should be chump type cars. The Z is just plain sexy and has it's own exotic sex appeal. Now there's a motor going to be in it with an attitude and imagine F/I'n a V8 Z will be just freaking awesome.
08-26-2005, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by spcemn_spiff
Right now F1 NA 3.0 liter engines produce about 1000Hp and redline at 19000rpms. Those are crazy numbers. 333Hp/liter. Loads or stresses on the engine increase the square of the increase in rpm. 6K redline compared to 18k redline equates to 9 times the load and thats not taking into effect the mechanical advantage, moments etc. Anyway, after all that engines weigh only around 100kgs/220lbs. Love F1, especially the whine of the engines.
Oh well, all good things must come to an end.....
08-26-2005, 07:01 PM
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well thats why it should just use a single turbo and stay a 6. Zs are always a 6....always.
Leave the twin turbo setup for the more expensive Infinity Skyline!
Leave the twin turbo setup for the more expensive Infinity Skyline!
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