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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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Default POwer Shift???

Ok fellas, what is it and how do you do it.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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Power shifting is when you dont lift your foot off the gas pedal in between shifts. Make sure you shift as fast as possible when doing this and you will have butter smooth shifts and you will also gain about .2 seconds on your 1/4 mile.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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paging alberto....he should be able to give you the best answer, but it is when you shift without every lifting off the gas, you just slam through each gear so fast that you don't need to let gas.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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Power Shifting is when you lift up on the Clutch pedal while the RPMS at a higher RPM needed to match the actual RPM of the Speed you are going...

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TO power shift from 2nd to 3rd... Lift the foot off the clutch when you are pressing the throttle keeping the RPM's up high...

Is that clear?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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how bad is that for the car?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:04 PM
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just puts some extra wear on your clutch...

if you have a clutch that doesnt slip at all like a cerametallic clutch it is harder on your trans...
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:08 PM
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yea me and bert are both on our 3rd transmissions. could it be from powershifting...? Ive gotten kind of supersticious over the whole powershifting thing since my trans broke in ocean city and i had to drive back home in 4th gear. But yea its a great way to pick up speed and drop time. Theres not much to it.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:19 PM
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If you are running the JWT set up that will take more of a beating then the trans since it has a center sprung disc and the clutch material will slip easier...
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:25 PM
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I've twisted an input shaft on my Firebird Powershifting. Ouch !!!!

Now I had it hardened with better material. I wonder what will be the next piece to go?

Let's face it, if you race it, eventually you'll break it.

It's a good thing that I like to break stuff !!!!

As soon as I get back to work I'm going to break some more stuff !!!!
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by mecinoid
I've twisted an input shaft on my Firebird Powershifting. Ouch !!!!

Now I had it hardened with better material. I wonder what will be the next piece to go?

Let's face it, if you race it, eventually you'll break it.

It's a good thing that I like to break stuff !!!!

As soon as I get back to work I'm going to break some more stuff !!!!
lol,
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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If you are truly floring the gas and shifting gears, you either are a pro, or a guy who will be taking his car in for repairs. I have seen a transmission wrecked doing this.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Agent ONE
If you are truly floring the gas and shifting gears, you either are a pro, or a guy who will be taking his car in for repairs. I have seen a transmission wrecked doing this.
The additional force from the engine has to go somewhere when you powershift.

If powershifting makes your clutch slip but does not make your wheels spin, most of the additional force was dissipated in the clutch via friction.

If powershifting makes your wheels spin but does not make your clutch slip, most of the additional force was dissipated in the tires via friction.

If your wheels are unable to spin and your clutch is ultra grabby, yeah, you'll probably f--k up your transmission.

As it stands, I highly doubt a stock Z would be damaged from powershifting. It doesn't take much to break the tires loose, and the clutch slips pretty easily as well.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Wired 24/7
The additional force from the engine has to go somewhere when you powershift.

If powershifting makes your clutch slip but does not make your wheels spin, most of the additional force was dissipated in the clutch via friction.

If powershifting makes your wheels spin but does not make your clutch slip, most of the additional force was dissipated in the tires via friction.

If your wheels are unable to spin and your clutch is ultra grabby, yeah, you'll probably f--k up your transmission.

As it stands, I highly doubt a stock Z would be damaged from powershifting. It doesn't take much to break the tires loose, and the clutch slips pretty easily as well.
Interesting.. The transmission that was wrecked was a stock Viper.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 03:56 PM
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Well, the viper has a really torquey engine, perhaps the strain was just too much on the tranny.

Not all the force will be dissipated as friction in the tires or clutch, some of it will be lost in the transmission obviously.
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 04:30 PM
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hmm....but if you shift at redline...wont you jump atleast a good amt past redline if you power shift? thats what i was always wondering
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 04:33 PM
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No, because there is a rev limiter. It will stop at 6600 rpm. In fact, the Z's engine can easily handle 7100rpm if it is tuned properly and you reflash the ECU to allow you to do so.

Maybe someone can chime in: don't they test our engines by running them at redline for like a week straight? Or is that another car brand?
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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Reading this topic makes me glad I bought my car brand new !
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A few days after I got my car I was goign WOT onto the freeway on ramp... hit the top of first gear, to 2nd gear, and when I went to shift into 3rd it actually went into 3rd... The rear end broke loose as the rear wheels locked up and the tech went all the way over as far as it could... quickly pressed in the clutch...

did it again a few days later...
and then again a couple mins after that....

63000 miles my car is runnin damn strong still!
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Originally Posted by Jason@Performance
A few days after I got my car I was goign WOT onto the freeway on ramp... hit the top of first gear, to 2nd gear, and when I went to shift into 3rd it actually went into 3rd... The rear end broke loose as the rear wheels locked up and the tech went all the way over as far as it could... quickly pressed in the clutch...

did it again a few days later...
and then again a couple mins after that....

63000 miles my car is runnin damn strong still!
huh?

don't make me pull out the bunny...

your post is really confusing...
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Old Sep 14, 2005 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by arlingtonz
paging alberto....he should be able to give you the best answer, but it is when you shift without every lifting off the gas, you just slam through each gear so fast that you don't need to let gas.
Lol thanks. Arlington is correct powershifting is shifting while WOT. I am on my 3rd tranny, but the first two tranmissions failed because you guys know the synchro problems the 03's had. My 2nd replacement lost 5th gear then 6th gear, then finally got stuck in reverse Once I received the newest 4th gen I believe tranny, Ive been fine. Im on my STOCK CLUTCH/FW with 53K miles of thousands of powershifts, 6500 rpm clutch drops on slicks and I still chirp 3rd like the clutch is new. I also have 32K on this new tranny with no issues whatsoever. if yuo can do it well, meaning when you push the clutch in your revs dont jump 500+rpm's then you will be fine. BTW if you wanna listen to what it sounds like going down the track listen to my video in my signature.

Originally Posted by frenzy757
hmm....but if you shift at redline...wont you jump atleast a good amt past redline if you power shift? thats what i was always wondering
Watch my vid, I dont even jump 100rpm's when shifting at 7100 rpm's, you cant even hear me bump limiter.....

Originally Posted by agentONE
If you are truly floring the gas and shifting gears, you either are a pro, or a guy who will be taking his car in for repairs. I have seen a transmission wrecked doing this.
I think I could be a pro dragger And btw like I said I wouldnt blame my tranny failures on my powershifting obviously the Z had issues with tranny's at first. I perfected my powershifting on a 1990 81hp Dodge Colt, I powershifted that thing 50-100X a day for 1 year never had tranny problems, but I did burn through 2 pep boys high performance clutches What do you expect for $99?
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