350Z - Evo Comparo
11-17-2005, 11:47 AM
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11-17-2005, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by makim
few cobras that beat me were on slicks and with nitrous, pulleys etc
again on a race track even slower then 350
again on a race track even slower then 350
BTW, were talking drag racing in this post. No doubt what the Evo is capable of on a road course.
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11-17-2005, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Robert_K
You know this is turning into my quote below.
Comparing AMS' Shop car against BriGuyMax's daily driver might qualify you for your own "quote" however.
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11-17-2005, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gnxs
Give me a break, any pullied Cobra on drag radials with a decent tune and driver can run high 11's.
BTW, were talking drag racing in this post. No doubt what the Evo is capable of on a road course.
BTW, were talking drag racing in this post. No doubt what the Evo is capable of on a road course.
compare weight and hp plus 4wd its no brainer
evo is a better sports car.
i bought 350 only because it was in my price range (same as evo), but chicks like it better. As far as performance it does everything worse then evo.
accel, handling,, stopping
interior quality is kinda similar though
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11-17-2005, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by makim
maybe where you live, stock cobra vs stock evo and 8/10 times evo will win
compare weight and hp plus 4wd its no brainer
this is going nowhere, no matter 350z or civic owner, they always try to say "my car is better"
evo is a better sports car.
i bought 350 only because it was in my price range (same as evo), but chicks like it better. As far as performance it does everything worse then evo.
accel, handling,, stopping
interior quality is kinda similar though
compare weight and hp plus 4wd its no brainer
this is going nowhere, no matter 350z or civic owner, they always try to say "my car is better"
evo is a better sports car.
i bought 350 only because it was in my price range (same as evo), but chicks like it better. As far as performance it does everything worse then evo.
accel, handling,, stopping
interior quality is kinda similar though
Secondly, all things (i.e. driver) being equal, a stock Cobra will own a stock Evo on a drag strip. I doubt you'd even get much of an argument about that on evolutionm.net. Just as the Evo would be victorious on a road course.
Lastly, I never intended to jump into a debate about these two cars (Evo - 350Z). All I was pointing out was my experience against modded TT350Z's and modded Evo's.
You started flying off in all directions when all I was pointing out was the hypocrisy when you made this statement:
Originally Posted by makim
... i had evo and it made 400whp on stock turbo, tt 350 was always slower, stop/roll, im not even gonna mention handling...
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11-17-2005, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gnxs
Yet you admit you're ~ 1/2 second slower than BriGuyMax's TT350z in the 1/4 mile.
briguy thinks hes fast, cause compared to stock 14. sec he is, but not compared to modded evos, thats my point. My car did low 12 at safe boost and stock turbo, it could easily do high 11's at higher boost level.
i never had a supra but i appreciate how strong the stock set up is and i see the potential there, im not trying to compare evo to supra because on a drag stip evo will always lose, comparing evo to 350 is a joke
11-17-2005, 12:30 PM
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You know I didn't want this to get into which car has the bigger dic.
1: The Evo is faster than the 350Z
2: I feel a modded 350 w/ the same bolt ons as an Evo still will be slower.
3: The 350Z is a better daily driver than the Evo if you don't need a sedan.
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1: The Evo is faster than the 350Z
2: I feel a modded 350 w/ the same bolt ons as an Evo still will be slower.
3: The 350Z is a better daily driver than the Evo if you don't need a sedan.
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11-17-2005, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by makim
ok, try to understand this, i currently own 350z, modded or not its no match for lightly modded evo.
briguy thinks hes fast, cause compared to stock 14. sec he is, but not compared to modded evos, thats my point. My car did low 12 at safe boost and stock turbo, it could easily do high 11's at higher boost level.
i never had a supra but i appreciate how strong the stock set up is and i see the potential there, im not trying to compare evo to supra because on a drag stip evo will always lose, comparing evo to 350 is a joke
briguy thinks hes fast, cause compared to stock 14. sec he is, but not compared to modded evos, thats my point. My car did low 12 at safe boost and stock turbo, it could easily do high 11's at higher boost level.
i never had a supra but i appreciate how strong the stock set up is and i see the potential there, im not trying to compare evo to supra because on a drag stip evo will always lose, comparing evo to 350 is a joke
A modded Evo is not always faster than a modded TT350z in a straight line.......period. Sometimes they are, sometimes they aren't. Yours is obviously SLOWER than his in a 1/4 mile, so how can you say:
Originally Posted by makim
.. i had evo and it made 400whp on stock turbo, tt 350 was always slower, stop/roll, im not even gonna mention handling...
Originally Posted by makim
.. briguy thinks hes fast, cause compared to stock 14. sec he is, but not compared to modded evos, thats my point.
11-17-2005, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Robert_K
You know I didn't want this to get into which car has the bigger dic.
1: The Evo is faster than the 350Z
2: I feel a modded Evo w/ the same bolt ons as an Evo still will be slower.
3: The 350Z is a better daily driver than the Evo if you don't need a sedan.
1: The Evo is faster than the 350Z
2: I feel a modded Evo w/ the same bolt ons as an Evo still will be slower.
3: The 350Z is a better daily driver than the Evo if you don't need a sedan.
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Originally Posted by Robert_K
I was frustrated w/ all the bs this thread made.
BTW, you're probably right about your revised #2........but that's not what I commented about originally (about 20 posts ago).
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Originally Posted by makim
briguy thinks hes fast, cause compared to stock 14. sec he is, but not compared to modded evos, thats my point. My car did low 12 at safe boost and stock turbo, it could easily do high 11's at higher boost level.
But you DIDN'T RUN 11s...so your statement about TT 350Z's being slower than what YOUR car was simply isn't true. We can if this and if that all day long..but the FACT remains..your EVO didn't run 11s..so you can now stick your foot in your mouth.
i never had a supra but i appreciate how strong the stock set up is and i see the potential there, im not trying to compare evo to supra because on a drag stip evo will always lose, comparing evo to 350 is a joke
11-17-2005, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by makim
evo is a better sports car.
i bought 350 only because it was in my price range (same as evo), but chicks like it better.
As far as performance it does everything worse then evo.
accel, handling,, stopping
accel, handling,, stopping
As for handling...I'm not even going to get into that...it's so subjective it's rediculious.
Braking...the 350Z's brembos work just as well as the evo's brembos.
interior quality is kinda similar though
11-18-2005, 02:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
That's your opinion...and thank you for sharing it.
If you need a car to pick up chicks, I feel sorry for you.
If you're speaking of stock for stock that's simply not true. The ONLY thing a stock Evo has on a 350Z in a straight line is the launch. The make similiar power numbers and have similiar curb weights.
As for handling...I'm not even going to get into that...it's so subjective it's rediculious.
Braking...the 350Z's brembos work just as well as the evo's brembos.
Comparing the LANCER interior to the 350Z....that's cute.
If you need a car to pick up chicks, I feel sorry for you.
If you're speaking of stock for stock that's simply not true. The ONLY thing a stock Evo has on a 350Z in a straight line is the launch. The make similiar power numbers and have similiar curb weights.
As for handling...I'm not even going to get into that...it's so subjective it's rediculious.
Braking...the 350Z's brembos work just as well as the evo's brembos.
Comparing the LANCER interior to the 350Z....that's cute.
dude you got issues, 350z interior is crap, dont you see that?
i love how you think stock 350z will hang with stock evo in any form
look at the times from all magazines new evo 4.5 to 60, sti 4.4 350z 5.9sek
how is handling subjective??? we have ways of measuring handling performance
its called slalom, and g's
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and as to braking performance
i know both cars have rotors with brembo written on them, but its the weight of the car, weight distribution and tire size, and few other things that contribute to breaking
again look at times
its like talking to a civic owner, its not about loyalty to the brand but the facts
i know both cars have rotors with brembo written on them, but its the weight of the car, weight distribution and tire size, and few other things that contribute to breaking
again look at times
its like talking to a civic owner, its not about loyalty to the brand but the facts
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Originally Posted by makim
dude you got issues, 350z interior is crap, dont you see that?
i love how you think stock 350z will hang with stock evo in any form
look at the times from all magazines new evo 4.5 to 60, sti 4.4 350z 5.9sek
look at the times from all magazines new evo 4.5 to 60, sti 4.4 350z 5.9sek
how is handling subjective??? we have ways of measuring handling performance its called slalom, and g's
its called slalom, and g's
WHERE'S YOUR REPLY TO MY OTHER POST??? OWNED TOO BAD TO RESPOND?
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Originally Posted by makim
and as to braking performance
i know both cars have rotors with brembo written on them, but its the weight of the car, weight distribution and tire size, and few other things that contribute to breaking
again look at times
its like talking to a civic owner, its not about loyalty to the brand but the facts
i know both cars have rotors with brembo written on them, but its the weight of the car, weight distribution and tire size, and few other things that contribute to breaking
again look at times
its like talking to a civic owner, its not about loyalty to the brand but the facts
Since you want to be a mag racer..and want me to look at mag times...here's some for you to chew on.
0-130mph time (seconds)
2003 350Z Track 26.6 (C&D, August 2002)
2003 Lancer Evolution 28.5 (C&D, June 2003)
11-18-2005, 06:51 AM
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Wow, another one of these threads...first bri congrats 11.7@120 is nice. but with that trap speed i think you can do a little better e.t. most evos that trap in the 120's are very close to the 10's if not there but thats great for a 350.
guys who cares which one is faster with equal mods??? ive owned both and i know what i enjoy more, who cares if i cant convince other z owners to see it my way. you need to appreciate that there is competition and we are all better off that there is. if it werent for the fast 350z's and others we wouldnt need to make our evo's faster.
why bother quoting AMS' car? you werent driving it so who cares. show us your slip or dont argue with bri, HE ran those times not a pro driver. his car rocks! but so does ours with similar mods.
guys who cares which one is faster with equal mods??? ive owned both and i know what i enjoy more, who cares if i cant convince other z owners to see it my way. you need to appreciate that there is competition and we are all better off that there is. if it werent for the fast 350z's and others we wouldnt need to make our evo's faster.
why bother quoting AMS' car? you werent driving it so who cares. show us your slip or dont argue with bri, HE ran those times not a pro driver. his car rocks! but so does ours with similar mods.