2006s really that heavy and slow ?
I don't know why people think the 06 is such a pig compared to 03-05. It gained ave of 149.5 lbs, after running some numbers. lbs/hp is nearly identical.
Base Enth Tour Track
03-05 3188 3197 3247 3225
06 3339 3346 3400 3370
Diff +151 +149 +153 +145 Ave 149.5
Base Enth Tour Track
03-05 3188 3197 3247 3225
06 3339 3346 3400 3370
Diff +151 +149 +153 +145 Ave 149.5
Originally Posted by Boresi
I don't know why people think the 06 is such a pig compared to 03-05. It gained ave of 149.5 lbs, after running some numbers. lbs/hp is nearly identical.
Base Enth Tour Track
03-05 3188 3197 3247 3225
06 3339 3346 3400 3370
Diff +151 +149 +153 +145 Ave 149.5
Base Enth Tour Track
03-05 3188 3197 3247 3225
06 3339 3346 3400 3370
Diff +151 +149 +153 +145 Ave 149.5
"I can add 15 horses to the crank fairly easy, but how the hell am I going to lose 150 lbs of something I'm not quite sure I needed before??"
Originally Posted by jackwhale
I think that this can be calculated.
Power/weight is the figure which is important. If my '03 has 287 hp and weighs 3100 lb, the power/weight is 10.7 hp/pound. If a car has 300 hp and weight is 3300 then the power/weight is 11.0 hp/lb.
If these numbers are correct then the increase in hp would more than account for the increase in weight.
I'm at the office so I don't have access to weight of our 350's.
Power/weight is the figure which is important. If my '03 has 287 hp and weighs 3100 lb, the power/weight is 10.7 hp/pound. If a car has 300 hp and weight is 3300 then the power/weight is 11.0 hp/lb.
If these numbers are correct then the increase in hp would more than account for the increase in weight.
I'm at the office so I don't have access to weight of our 350's.
Another way to look at it is that the weight went up 6.4%, but the HP only went up 4.5%.
uwaeve
Originally Posted by jackwhale
I think that this can be calculated.
Power/weight is the figure which is important. If my '03 has 287 hp and weighs 3100 lb, the power/weight is 10.7 hp/pound. If a car has 300 hp and weight is 3300 then the power/weight is 11.0 hp/lb.
If these numbers are correct then the increase in hp would more than account for the increase in weight.
I'm at the office so I don't have access to weight of our 350's.
Power/weight is the figure which is important. If my '03 has 287 hp and weighs 3100 lb, the power/weight is 10.7 hp/pound. If a car has 300 hp and weight is 3300 then the power/weight is 11.0 hp/lb.
If these numbers are correct then the increase in hp would more than account for the increase in weight.
I'm at the office so I don't have access to weight of our 350's.
Originally Posted by uwaeve
Actually, those are 10.8 lb/hp for the '03 and 11.0 lb/hp for the other. The lower, the better. Therefore the '03 should still be better using this figure-of-merit.
Another way to look at it is that the weight went up 6.4%, but the HP only went up 4.5%.
uwaeve
Another way to look at it is that the weight went up 6.4%, but the HP only went up 4.5%.
uwaeve
Originally Posted by Alberto
Perfectly said and very true. Dont worry about it, get the 06' and do the MREV which adds a big chunk of midrange horsepower and torque and you'll be set....
Sorry for being dumb but what is MREV?
Originally Posted by mc350z
i messed around with taking out my spare. and i noticed two things
1 with less than 1/2 tank of gas plus the missing spare the car oversteers more (in an autoX situation at least)
2 maybe it was just me hallucinating but i think it made the rear higher and more gap between the tires showed. i didnt measure it but i put the tire back in and it looked normal again. i think the tire and tools are around 40 lbs
1 with less than 1/2 tank of gas plus the missing spare the car oversteers more (in an autoX situation at least)
2 maybe it was just me hallucinating but i think it made the rear higher and more gap between the tires showed. i didnt measure it but i put the tire back in and it looked normal again. i think the tire and tools are around 40 lbs
Originally Posted by bswanny
Sorry for being dumb but what is MREV?
so it brings back the torque and they lose hp up top...? i mean if thtas the cause the end up with a 2003-2005 modeld 350z with a spacer and technosquare reflash for the higher rpms, but they are 150 pounds heavier. how does that work out? (if what I just said doesnt make sense please ignore it since im kinda dumb with all the technical aspects.)
Originally Posted by rolling
i
try removing..
rear hatch as suggested in another thread.
rear wiper/ washer asembly
front washer fluid
helium in your tires
remove stereo equipment and SUBS!!
pass seat,
anything you simplty dont NEED..
i think you get my point lol
but seriousy.. get it you will like it
i had 2 03's i easily like this best
try removing..
rear hatch as suggested in another thread.
rear wiper/ washer asembly
front washer fluid
helium in your tires
remove stereo equipment and SUBS!!
pass seat,
anything you simplty dont NEED..
i think you get my point lol
but seriousy.. get it you will like it
i had 2 03's i easily like this best
Helium in tires?Be carefull!!, don't put too much helium as your car will fly away and you probably don't have rudders to steer it so you could crash into the 3rd floor of a building!!
Last edited by buho62; Feb 2, 2006 at 09:37 AM.
Originally Posted by uwaeve
Actually, those are 10.8 lb/hp for the '03 and 11.0 lb/hp for the other. The lower, the better. Therefore the '03 should still be better using this figure-of-merit.
Another way to look at it is that the weight went up 6.4%, but the HP only went up 4.5%.
uwaeve
Another way to look at it is that the weight went up 6.4%, but the HP only went up 4.5%.
uwaeve
Base Enth Tour Track
03-05 11.11 11.14 11.31 11.24
06 11.13 11.15 11.33 11.23
Diff +.02 +.01 +.02 -.01 Ave +.01 lbs/hp
% wt gain 4.74 4.66 4.71 4.50 Ave 4.65
% hp gain 4.53
So the difference is so small its negligible. 06 Track actually has better wt/hp ratio than prev years except 05.
The weight will affect handling and braking more. I bet 03-05 will have better lap times around a track.
Originally Posted by bhk1004
so it brings back the torque and they lose hp up top...? i mean if thtas the cause the end up with a 2003-2005 modeld 350z with a spacer and technosquare reflash for the higher rpms, but they are 150 pounds heavier. how does that work out? (if what I just said doesnt make sense please ignore it since im kinda dumb with all the technical aspects.)
Originally Posted by TK2005
Hahaha.....11hp per pound huh? That would be 36,300hp. Try 11lbs/hp which equates to more weight per hp than the 10.7 calculation.
i have over 36k HP!!!
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