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Old 08-12-2006, 11:59 AM
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Default Lexus is300 vs the 350Z, stock and modified

I had someone tell me that the is300 can be a better car modified than the 350Z can be. So it just got me curious to how the is300 really does compare

also, remember how this is the old style lexus is, not the new one.

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Old 08-12-2006, 12:07 PM
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Is300 has a rock solid engine, the JZE can handle a TT well.
I would say the 350z is a far better bang-for-buck proposition, stock or modded. Build quality and Comfort, the is300 is a winner.
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I hate to say this being a Z owner but the 2jz bottom end can handle some sick hp. Basically, I agree with your friend.
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what about when it comes to the track, such as handling ability's, and so on.
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My opinion was just based on the motor itself. That is the only thing IMO that is better on the is300 just my .02 man, actually maybe the tranny too.
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Stock vs Stock the Z wins hand down, modifications is a whole new ball game... Any car can beat any car modified, the limiting factor is your pocket book.
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Originally Posted by Built2shredZ
Stock vs Stock the Z wins hand down, modifications is a whole new ball game... Any car can beat any car modified, the limiting factor is your pocket book.
Agree. Its kind of a silly question. Any vehicle can be modified to run faster than another vehicle.
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Originally Posted by JJ350
what about when it comes to the track, such as handling ability's, and so on.
I would hate to say this, but our cars are not that great-handling car either.
It's more of a GT car than pure sports car.
In stock form the handling leaves a lot to be desired.
I'm sure it will outhandle IS300 stock or modified, but the heavy weight of the
car really hurts performance compared to other cars.

And engine-wise, 2JZ >>>>>> VQ35
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The tranny is the weak link. With boost the Z is faster than the IS. IS300 are known to flip over so there you go with handling.
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Originally Posted by gsazabi
I would hate to say this, but our cars are not that great-handling car either.
Stop right there.

What are you smoking?
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stock for stock, the Z win's in every performance catagory. however on the reliability front, the IS is better.

in terms of a sky's the limit mod race its hard to say unless you narrow what type of goal your talking about (drag, track, etc). at this point in time I would tend to believe that the IS would be able to handle more hp (due to the larger aftermarket for the 2JZ and limited FI time people have had on VQ's), however how well an IS would be able to translate that to the ground in an effective way is a bit questionable.

either way this is a stupid comparison. why compare a luxury sedan with a sports car? it seems to me that a better comparison for the Z would be the MKIV. however we've all been down that road a few TOO MANY times already.
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Originally Posted by JJ350
what about when it comes to the track, such as handling ability's, and so on.

Ripken Stadium, Aberdeen, MD 06/17/06

Everything depends on the driver. Contact your local SCCA. Go to autocross. Kick Honda butt!
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Originally Posted by gsazabi
I would hate to say this, but our cars are not that great-handling car either.

Summit Point, WV 10/29/05

What? Something tells me that you are an inexperienced racer, and short on self-confidence (please correct me if I am wrong). Get out there and test your skills, and push the 350Z to the limits.

I forgot to say Kick Honda butt!
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haha davidv FTW
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Originally Posted by JJ350
I had someone tell me that the is300 can be a better car modified than the 350Z can be. So it just got me curious to how the is300 really does compare

also, remember how this is the old style lexus is, not the new one.

Well stock for stock the Z would win, but i had a 05 is300 and it was slow as ****, now if you put a TT kit on the 300 it would be a supra....end of story
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Originally Posted by showstoppertk
stock for stock, the Z win's in every performance catagory. however on the reliability front, the IS is better.

in terms of a sky's the limit mod race its hard to say unless you narrow what type of goal your talking about (drag, track, etc). at this point in time I would tend to believe that the IS would be able to handle more hp (due to the larger aftermarket for the 2JZ and limited FI time people have had on VQ's), however how well an IS would be able to translate that to the ground in an effective way is a bit questionable.

either way this is a stupid comparison. why compare a luxury sedan with a sports car? it seems to me that a better comparison for the Z would be the MKIV. however we've all been down that road a few TOO MANY times already.
From what I hear there are only 2 boost kits for that car now 3 with turbonetics. One by ATI I think and one knock off by a local company called Luxury automotive. I'm pretty sure the last 3 years the Z has been out there has been way more things available. I think the VQ has over 10 boost kits now. The tranny and internals are completely different from the Supra sez my cousin with an IS.
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^very true. but as I said if we're talking about sky's the limit, then the IS300 owner would likely change out the bottom end of that 2jzge to a 2jzgte and slap on a getrag (which is not all that uncommon to see). then the sky really is the limit since basically your working with the same aftermarket as the MKIV (with a little fabrication here and there).
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Originally Posted by showstoppertk
^very true. but as I said if we're talking about sky's the limit, then the IS300 owner would likely change out the bottom end of that 2jzge to a 2jzgte and slap on a getrag (which is not all that uncommon to see). then the sky really is the limit since basically your working with the same aftermarket as the MKIV (with a little fabrication here and there).
That's going to cost 3 arms and a leg. I think you mean money is the limit.
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For the record... the engine in the IS300 is not forged. The 2JZ-GE is not a GTE without the turbos. You need to either build the motor or swap in a GTE. Swapping the GTE isn't a simple drop in affair either. The IS300 is no easier to make quick that the 350Z.
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Originally Posted by gsazabi
I would hate to say this, but our cars are not that great-handling car either.
Best one I've heard all week.


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