350z causing fatal crash in Delaware!
Originally Posted by trentor
and you're right, people have been sued for "helping". you need to be real sure you know what you're doing if you actually touch a victim. and if you have medical training, you better "help" up to the limit of your training. many have been sued for not doing that as well.
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Originally Posted by kcobean
I'm not in any way saying that I don't believe you, but what's the point of the so-called "good samaritan" act. I thought it was supposed to protect you in the event that you accidentally did harm in the act of trying to render aid.
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Originally Posted by kcobean
I'm not in any way saying that I don't believe you, but what's the point of the so-called "good samaritan" act. I thought it was supposed to protect you in the event that you accidentally did harm in the act of trying to render aid.
just jumping in for a sec, the law is written to protect someone who helps an injured person,
personally i have minimal first aid training and would use that...however, if i try to jump start some ones heart with my car jumper cables or do a tracheotomy with a ball point pen because i saw it on MASH they can fry my butt
Some places you are required by law to stop and assist, and others (like germany) require you to have a first aid kit with certain supplies in your car at all times
Originally Posted by imjdoggie
I have read so many of your posts and the opinions of some of you just make me sick, for instance, "fry the #$%^&*" I mean come on guys this could have been any of us. I totally agree that the racing should be done at the track, but there have been numerous times that I just wanted to hear the Z or drive a little fast and there is a time and a place for it I know I just can't resist sometimes. This was just a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and everyone was at fault it looks like, the guys for racing and the elderly lady for pulling out in front of them. I like to give people another chance and I understand the elderly lady wont have another chance but why send possibly a 16 year old to jail for life for a mistake I'm sure we all have made at least once!!!
Originally Posted by hardrock905
Hmmm. Is this some sort of law that has passed recently? 
I sure haven't heard of it.
Best thing to do if you see an accident is to call 911 IMO.
Sure, it would be very tempting to try to help someone, and I probably would myslef, but sometimes people get sued over helping accident vitims.
Sad but true.
I sure haven't heard of it.
Best thing to do if you see an accident is to call 911 IMO.
Sure, it would be very tempting to try to help someone, and I probably would myslef, but sometimes people get sued over helping accident vitims.
Sad but true.
In any case if you are a witness you are supposed to stop.. at least that's what every cop has ever told me...
yea...that road sucks to race on....therefore why you do it...not in newark epecially....cops and traffic are worse there than anywhere...and im sure once the ion owner can talk...hell know what the tag was if it was a vanity plate...or just know for definate what kinda car it is....but w/o it being a vanity plate...theres no way there gonna find a silver 350z in another state
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Originally Posted by kcobean
I'm not in any way saying that I don't believe you, but what's the point of the so-called "good samaritan" act. I thought it was supposed to protect you in the event that you accidentally did harm in the act of trying to render aid.
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My law professor just discussed the topic of stopping and helping someone in class and he confirmed that ther is no such law that requires you to give assistance. This can go all the way to you literally watching some little kid drown in a lake. UNLESS it is your specific job (I.E. a lifeguard of that lake) then you can not be held liable for not helping the child and to the good sam. laws are true where they have been passed. Unless you are grossly negligent can you be held liable for trying to help someone.
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I don't know how this got on to the subject of Good Samaritan laws, but it's interesting you mentioned a drowing victim. In the case of someone drowning, you better not try to just swim out and save them. If you do that without proper training and a flotation device, they're going to try to claw their way up your body to get out of the water and then there will be two dead people in the water.
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Originally Posted by bofa
Didn't say you had to help.. just that you probably should (if you are a good person). I'm CPR and First Aid certified (don't ask.. wife's a teacher and I took the class with her..) and the Good Samaritan laws are a little tricky.
In any case if you are a witness you are supposed to stop.. at least that's what every cop has ever told me...
In any case if you are a witness you are supposed to stop.. at least that's what every cop has ever told me...
Originally Posted by bofa
Even if you didn't do something wrong, you are supposed to stop to report an accident and possibly assist if it does not endanger yourself or others.
Originally Posted by kcobean
You're a teenager or very young twenty-something, aren't you.
I am 31 and aren't you supposed to be a mod, what happened to the being nice deal you all talked about a few months ago. I think you were the one saying if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything!! So being a mod aren't you being a little hypocritical??? And honestly I could care less what you think!!!! And I guess you never go over 80 in that ugly *** Viper you drive, right??
Why send a 16-year-old to jail for life for something we all could have done? Because there are consequences for one's actions. Just because it's mistake a lot of people "may" be capable of committing doesn't make it ok. It's called exercising good judgement, and being held accountable when you bone it.
And way to insult a mod and making it personal. You may want to re-examine your own decision making paradigm.
And way to insult a mod and making it personal. You may want to re-examine your own decision making paradigm.
Originally Posted by bonusfrag
Why send a 16-year-old to jail for life for something we all could have done? Because there are consequences for one's actions. Just because it's mistake a lot of people "may" be capable of committing doesn't make it ok. It's called exercising good judgement, and being held accountable when you bone it.
And way to insult a mod and making it personal. You may want to re-examine your own decision making paradigm.
And way to insult a mod and making it personal. You may want to re-examine your own decision making paradigm.
I think the MOD is the one who made it personal by calling me out and basically calling me a child, listen the last thing I wanted to do was start a ruckus in this thread I was just giving my opinion. What if this was your kid who hit the lady would you feel the same way?? And the Viper comment was an OPINION I think all Vipers are ugly not just his.
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Originally Posted by imjdoggie
I have read so many of your posts and the opinions of some of you just make me sick, for instance, "fry the #$%^&*" I mean come on guys this could have been any of us. I totally agree that the racing should be done at the track, but there have been numerous times that I just wanted to hear the Z or drive a little fast and there is a time and a place for it I know I just can't resist sometimes. This was just a case of being in the wrong place at the wrong time and everyone was at fault it looks like, the guys for racing and the elderly lady for pulling out in front of them. I like to give people another chance and I understand the elderly lady wont have another chance but why send possibly a 16 year old to jail for life for a mistake I'm sure we all have made at least once!!!
Just a thought.......would you still have this opinion if that old ladie was your wife, mother, sister?
Originally Posted by imjdoggie
What if this was your kid who hit the lady would you feel the same way??
But that's my opinion. Opinions are like arseholes... Everybody's got one.
Originally Posted by bonusfrag
I would slap the living **** out of him if he was my child, then I do everything I can to protect him. But this is a life-changing mistake, and it demands life-changing sequences.
But that's my opinion. Opinions are like arseholes... Everybody's got one.
But that's my opinion. Opinions are like arseholes... Everybody's got one.
I would do the same and I totally agree with the opinions comment.
Originally Posted by Black Duck
Just a thought.......would you still have this opinion if that old ladie was your wife, mother, sister?
Honestly if it were a loved one of mine I would obviously be very very upset but I would not want the book thrown at John Doe IF it was a younger individual because like I said earlier everyone makes mistakes and I beleive in forgiveness, the man upstairs will take care of the rest IMO.
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Originally Posted by imjdoggie
Honestly if it were a loved one of mine I would obviously be very very upset but I would not want the book thrown at John Doe IF it was a younger individual because like I said earlier everyone makes mistakes and I beleive in forgiveness, the man upstairs will take care of the rest IMO.
Originally Posted by Black Duck
I appreciate what you are saying but it would be difficult to separate what is and is not a crime based on your age. Ie theft, rape, murder with intent. Kids grow up so quickly these days. You have to take responsibility and this is manslaughter whether you are 16 or 86.
Hey man I agree with having to take responsibility for your actions but basically what I was saying was I hope if it was a younger person driving that car He or she is given another chance. I just hope this doesn't ruin more lives than it already has. God bless all families involved!!!