First 350Z RB26DETT in the World.
04-11-2003, 06:19 AM
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Originally posted by phile
Wouldn't it suck if one of us switched out our motors and the VQ ended up being just as capable..
But that's not feasible because the RB26DETT comes with a factory turbo with low compression.... or am i wrong?
Wouldn't it suck if one of us switched out our motors and the VQ ended up being just as capable..
But that's not feasible because the RB26DETT comes with a factory turbo with low compression.... or am i wrong?
No because, Its cheaper the way I did it, then say...If I were to buy a twin turbo kit. I know the VQ won't ever see the power outputs of the RB for many years, if it ever does.
04-11-2003, 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by poweraddict
No because, Its cheaper the way I did it, then say...If I were to buy a twin turbo kit. I know the VQ won't ever see the power outputs of the RB for many years, if it ever does.
No because, Its cheaper the way I did it, then say...If I were to buy a twin turbo kit. I know the VQ won't ever see the power outputs of the RB for many years, if it ever does.
04-11-2003, 10:03 AM
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Originally posted by christurismohk
Question: Is US getting a 350z RE26DETT engine swap before Japan?? If so, I guess we can be as crazy as the japanese...if you know what i mean...
Question: Is US getting a 350z RE26DETT engine swap before Japan?? If so, I guess we can be as crazy as the japanese...if you know what i mean...
04-11-2003, 10:39 AM
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Everone seems to have Turbo envy, including myself. But be cautious.
You can build a 11 second 350Z, it's not that far fetched.
If you install headers, y pipe, exhaust, remove cats, add a direct port nitrous system, remove some weight to make room for roll cage, get some drag radials on 16s, you will be 11s.
How much faster do you want to go in your brand new Z? It's only 2003 and the cars only been out for SIX MONTHS!
I commend the engine swap, Its so phat I am still gleaming from the pics of that engine bay.
but everyone on this board seems to be rushing for 900whp! good luck. but you may end up ruining your investment on one of the best balanced sports cars ever made for under $50k.
Don't get me wrong, i am investigating all turbo options as well. Just dont demand MKIV Supra or Skyline modability on your 2003 350Z. Take your time. wait for companies like Top Secret to battle other tuning companies. Being first is great and fun, but who wants a service nightmare?
04-11-2003, 10:46 AM
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Originally posted by Importlife.com
Everone seems to have Turbo envy, including myself. But be cautious.
You can build a 11 second 350Z, it's not that far fetched.
If you install headers, y pipe, exhaust, remove cats, add a direct port nitrous system, remove some weight to make room for roll cage, get some drag radials on 16s, you will be 11s.
How much faster do you want to go in your brand new Z? It's only 2003 and the cars only been out for SIX MONTHS!
I commend the engine swap, Its so phat I am still gleaming from the pics of that engine bay.
but everyone on this board seems to be rushing for 900whp! good luck. but you may end up ruining your investment on one of the best balanced sports cars ever made for under $50k.
Don't get me wrong, i am investigating all turbo options as well. Just dont demand MKIV Supra or Skyline modability on your 2003 350Z. Take your time. wait for companies like Top Secret to battle other tuning companies. Being first is great and fun, but who wants a service nightmare?
Everone seems to have Turbo envy, including myself. But be cautious.
You can build a 11 second 350Z, it's not that far fetched.
If you install headers, y pipe, exhaust, remove cats, add a direct port nitrous system, remove some weight to make room for roll cage, get some drag radials on 16s, you will be 11s.
How much faster do you want to go in your brand new Z? It's only 2003 and the cars only been out for SIX MONTHS!
I commend the engine swap, Its so phat I am still gleaming from the pics of that engine bay.
but everyone on this board seems to be rushing for 900whp! good luck. but you may end up ruining your investment on one of the best balanced sports cars ever made for under $50k.
Don't get me wrong, i am investigating all turbo options as well. Just dont demand MKIV Supra or Skyline modability on your 2003 350Z. Take your time. wait for companies like Top Secret to battle other tuning companies. Being first is great and fun, but who wants a service nightmare?
As I stated on another thread, I may scrap the idea of making my Z faster, in favor of adding a lift kit, 14" cims and monster truck tires. I may also add a second and third engine for future tractor pull competition.
p.s. don't yank our chain with that pic. THat's an old fashioned hair dryer, not a turbo. You didn't fool me. :>
04-11-2003, 11:18 AM
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Thats my exact point. There is no science to being quicker. More HP = faster car. Thats as detailed its going to get. But its all trial and error.
You can have 900whp and do 10 seconds and another z with only 500whp and nitrous might equal or best you.
So the way i now think about building my car is the way in which customers buy cars.... 0-60, 1/4 and trap speed, braking, slalom, top speed. I dont care how many hp i end up with. the less hp i can use to reach my goals, the more efficient the car will be and the more efficient each pound of torque and horsepower ends up being.
no more how many HPs do you have compared to my hp. Thats how you end up living at the shop or ultimately lose a lot of money selling the car and buying the next one.
You can have 900whp and do 10 seconds and another z with only 500whp and nitrous might equal or best you.
So the way i now think about building my car is the way in which customers buy cars.... 0-60, 1/4 and trap speed, braking, slalom, top speed. I dont care how many hp i end up with. the less hp i can use to reach my goals, the more efficient the car will be and the more efficient each pound of torque and horsepower ends up being.
no more how many HPs do you have compared to my hp. Thats how you end up living at the shop or ultimately lose a lot of money selling the car and buying the next one.
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04-11-2003, 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by Importlife.com
You can build a 11 second 350Z, it's not that far fetched.
If you install headers, y pipe, exhaust, remove cats, add a direct port nitrous system, remove some weight to make room for roll cage, get some drag radials on 16s, you will be 11s.
You can build a 11 second 350Z, it's not that far fetched.
If you install headers, y pipe, exhaust, remove cats, add a direct port nitrous system, remove some weight to make room for roll cage, get some drag radials on 16s, you will be 11s.
04-11-2003, 11:24 AM
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Someone on this board in my area is already spraying and thinks he may be able to get 12s. We shall see after the may 3rd NHRA spring nationals.
If he can prove with just nitrous he can gets into 12, then its not hard to believe with drag radials and other bolt ons you can get into 11s.
But you are right, i have no proof. so i'll keep everyone updated.
If he can prove with just nitrous he can gets into 12, then its not hard to believe with drag radials and other bolt ons you can get into 11s.
But you are right, i have no proof. so i'll keep everyone updated.
Originally posted by 99AllTurbo
I'll believe it when I see it.
I'll believe it when I see it.
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04-11-2003, 12:01 PM
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actually there is alot of science to making a car faster 
Engineering is a science. You said it yourself, a 900 rwhp car might have the same 1/4mile as a 500 rwhp with nitrous. IT's all about the transfer of power...physics/engineering
Engineering is a science. You said it yourself, a 900 rwhp car might have the same 1/4mile as a 500 rwhp with nitrous. IT's all about the transfer of power...physics/engineering
04-11-2003, 03:47 PM
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As someone once asked me...
Friend: What's the the same between a 700hp supra and a 500hp supra?
Me: I don't know, what?
Friend: Same quater mile time.
It's all about transfer of the power. For example Superchargers Vs. Turbos... or some could even argue front engine vs mid engine (same hp of course). I wouldn't be suprised if a car with less hp and spraying could make the same times as a higher hp'd car.
Friend: What's the the same between a 700hp supra and a 500hp supra?
Me: I don't know, what?
Friend: Same quater mile time.
It's all about transfer of the power. For example Superchargers Vs. Turbos... or some could even argue front engine vs mid engine (same hp of course). I wouldn't be suprised if a car with less hp and spraying could make the same times as a higher hp'd car.
04-11-2003, 08:02 PM
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Originally posted by Ricky
As someone once asked me...
Friend: What's the the same between a 700hp supra and a 500hp supra?
Me: I don't know, what?
Friend: Same quater mile time.
It's all about transfer of the power. For example Superchargers Vs. Turbos... or some could even argue front engine vs mid engine (same hp of course). I wouldn't be suprised if a car with less hp and spraying could make the same times as a higher hp'd car.
As someone once asked me...
Friend: What's the the same between a 700hp supra and a 500hp supra?
Me: I don't know, what?
Friend: Same quater mile time.
It's all about transfer of the power. For example Superchargers Vs. Turbos... or some could even argue front engine vs mid engine (same hp of course). I wouldn't be suprised if a car with less hp and spraying could make the same times as a higher hp'd car.
04-12-2003, 12:30 AM
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How much power does the RB26 engine have before the turbos have time to spool up?
I'm assuming it spools at ~3000 rpm? Is it a torqueless wonder that relies on the Turbos to push it into insanity or does it actually have low end torque to back it up?
I would be interested on seeing some dyno graphs for a RB26DETT all the way from 800 to redline
I'm assuming it spools at ~3000 rpm? Is it a torqueless wonder that relies on the Turbos to push it into insanity or does it actually have low end torque to back it up?
I would be interested on seeing some dyno graphs for a RB26DETT all the way from 800 to redline
04-13-2003, 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by Finality
How much power does the RB26 engine have before the turbos have time to spool up?
I'm assuming it spools at ~3000 rpm? Is it a torqueless wonder that relies on the Turbos to push it into insanity or does it actually have low end torque to back it up?
I would be interested on seeing some dyno graphs for a RB26DETT all the way from 800 to redline
How much power does the RB26 engine have before the turbos have time to spool up?
I'm assuming it spools at ~3000 rpm? Is it a torqueless wonder that relies on the Turbos to push it into insanity or does it actually have low end torque to back it up?
I would be interested on seeing some dyno graphs for a RB26DETT all the way from 800 to redline
Lag is completely overrated, its easy to drive around.
04-13-2003, 08:40 AM
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Race situations are quite different. While I am not too worried about straight line performance I was referring to problems if your trying to keep under boost range and you cross the line by mistake and suddenly you get kicked with 650+ rwhp.
I'm toying with the idea of dropping this engine in but am very worried about the boost range and ****ing up especially during a turn.
I'm toying with the idea of dropping this engine in but am very worried about the boost range and ****ing up especially during a turn.
04-13-2003, 08:50 AM
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Question...
Why are you wanting to run an AEM ECU? It's already known this is an OLD system that was around 2+ years ago badged under a different company. AEM picked it up, tweeked it... and slapped their label on it.
EVERY Supra guy/gal I've know that tried it... hated it.
Either went back or switched over to Motec...
Why are you wanting to run an AEM ECU? It's already known this is an OLD system that was around 2+ years ago badged under a different company. AEM picked it up, tweeked it... and slapped their label on it.
EVERY Supra guy/gal I've know that tried it... hated it.
Either went back or switched over to Motec...
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yes most all parts will be custom. but it will be available(the parts) to everyone once we sort everything thing out. we will keep everyone updated as things progress.
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