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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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Hi everyone,

One never wants to be in this situation, but I fear that I have been taken for a ride. To be fair and honor the forum rules, I will keep my story brief and generic.

On 1/24/2007, I was contacted by a member of this forum via private message regarding my interest in purchasing a used Nismo Exhaust. The user initially wanted a money order, but agreed to accept PayPal upon my insistence. My payment cleared PayPal on 1/26/07. From that point on, I have been given a myriad of stories and excuses regarding the shipment status, and I have never been provided a valid tracking number. In fact, I have been provided two invalid tracking numbers, one for a shipping company that does not even ship to Florida.

To make a long story short, I have filed a complaint/claim with PayPal, and I am awaiting the next steps (apparently the seller has to acknowledge the complaint).

For anyone with experience in these matters, should I expect any sort of resolution with this matter? What will PayPal do if this person just decides to ignore my complaint? I seriously hope that I don’t get burned on this, because it’s a large chunk of money, one that would fall under grand theft if processed in a court of law.

Thanks in advance.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:48 PM
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Post his name and let the forum members "pressure" him into doing the right thing.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:49 PM
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who was the member? how many posts did they have? perhaps somebody on the forum knows them. A month and a half is a long time though, sounds like somebodies trying to scam you, hopefully pay pal straightens it out
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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Almost 2 months and no real outcome? I say put him in the spotlight and post up his name.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tropicalypso
Hi everyone,

One never wants to be in this situation, but I fear that I have been taken for a ride. To be fair and honor the forum rules, I will keep my story brief and generic.

On 1/24/2007, I was contacted by a member of this forum via private message regarding my interest in purchasing a used Nismo Exhaust. The user initially wanted a money order, but agreed to accept PayPal upon my insistence. My payment cleared PayPal on 1/26/07. From that point on, I have been given a myriad of stories and excuses regarding the shipment status, and I have never been provided a valid tracking number. In fact, I have been provided two invalid tracking numbers, one for a shipping company that does not even ship to Florida.

To make a long story short, I have filed a complaint/claim with PayPal, and I am awaiting the next steps (apparently the seller has to acknowledge the complaint).

For anyone with experience in these matters, should I expect any sort of resolution with this matter? What will PayPal do if this person just decides to ignore my complaint? I seriously hope that I don’t get burned on this, because it’s a large chunk of money, one that would fall under grand theft if processed in a court of law.

Thanks in advance.
I had a similar experience and I can tell you that Pay Pal won't do $hit if the transaction is not an eBay transaction. Did you use your credit card instead of your bank account with Pay Pal? If you used your credit card, you can dispute the charge but, expect to jump thru hoops.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SexZRed06
Almost 2 months and no real outcome? I say put him in the spotlight and post up his name.

yep, no sense ***** footing around...hes obviously a douche
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by xedes
Post his name and let the forum members "pressure" him into doing the right thing.
The member to which I refer to is CS04Z. He has a low post count, but did have a positive trader rating before I adjusted it.

Thus far, I have heard the following stories
  1. He has to find a truck to carry the item to the UPS Store
  2. He is sick
  3. He is out of town
  4. He ordered a pickup from UPS to occur at his workplace warehouse, but that it didn't go through becase the warehouse manager is a feeble 60 year old lady who refused to move the 50lb box to the loading dock?
  5. He has filed an invalid tracking number in PayPal for a shipping company that does not ship to Florida
  6. He is out of town again
  7. Its shipped but he doesn't have time to give me the transaction number

The last story I have heard from him is that he shipped the exhaust on Saturday, March 4th, and that it would arrive on Friday, March 9th. I have sent voicemails, emails, text messages, private messages, smoke signals and semaphore, requesting a transaction number. His last message was that he works for a living, and that he did not have time for this.

For the record, I don't feel like I am jumping the gun on this transaction, as I have been very accomodating to this seller and entertained the various stories he has given. If the exhaust magically appears in the next few days (maybe its taking waaaay longer then expected to arrive), then I will gladly absolve the seller of any wrongdoing. However, considering the variety of excuses, and the length of time (almost two months), I fear that PayPal will be my only hope.

Edit: I posted the wrong SN

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Originally Posted by 35TH ANY
I had a similar experience and I can tell you that Pay Pal won't do $hit if the transaction is not an eBay transaction. Did you use your credit card instead of your bank account with Pay Pal? If you used your credit card, you can dispute the charge but, expect to jump thru hoops.
Unfortunately, I used my bank card.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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Are you sure that's his screen name? I can't even find any postings under CS350z. What state is he out of? Maybe someone near him can find out more information.
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Originally Posted by xedes
Are you sure that's his screen name? I can't even find any postings under CS350z. What state is he out of? Maybe someone near him can find out more information.
Thank you for pointing that out, the screen name is actually CS04Z.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:47 PM
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If you used your bank card it still has protection, but you must act before 60 days of the transaction for most banks. If it has a visa or mastercard logo on the card, you will probably have even better fraud protection, but they key is to act before the disputable time frame, 60 days for most.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by slowxturtle
If you used your bank card it still has protection, but you must act before 60 days of the transaction for most banks. If it has a visa or mastercard logo on the card, you will probably have even better fraud protection, but they key is to act before the disputable time frame, 60 days for most.
Good to know... that might be why the seller has been stringing me along.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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No posts since 1/26..you've been had.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by tropicalypso
Unfortunately, I used my bank card.
If it's a cash and check card with the Visa logo you will still have the protection of a CC. You need to talk to your bank and file.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMFairladyZ33
If it's a cash and check card with the Visa logo you will still have the protection of a CC. You need to talk to your bank and file.
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The seller is full of sh*t!
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 08:28 PM
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Sorry to hear about this neighbor.
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Old Mar 12, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by tropicalypso
Unfortunately, I used my bank card.
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooo!
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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now that is messed up! thats the same as steeling someones rims!!!!
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Old Mar 13, 2007 | 12:16 AM
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That's sooooooooo fuked up!
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