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Old 05-21-2007, 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gsazabi
We Americans are too lazy to shift on our own!

What're you talking about??!!

Automatic transmissions allow for people to attach their cell phones to their faces with the hand they'd otherwise would have used to shift - Multi-tasking FTW!





...I only wish I were joking.
Old 05-21-2007, 07:19 PM
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AT on a Z is so "Ginger Beer" as Jeremy would say.
Old 05-21-2007, 07:24 PM
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ummmm...more auto's in inventory cause everyone is buying the manuals
Old 05-21-2007, 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DBTRACK
ummmm...more auto's in inventory cause everyone is buying the manuals
Interesting. I didn't think of that.
Old 05-21-2007, 07:46 PM
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plus all the people selling their autos because they soon get bored and realize they should have got the manual...and they also get tired of everyone ragging on them. Silly kids... slush boxes are for girls.
Old 05-21-2007, 07:46 PM
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I'm glad the Z is available in an auto. I physically cannot drive a standard after my car accident and I dont want that to jeapordize(sp?) me owning a fun car.
Old 05-21-2007, 08:14 PM
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the Z should be made only in manual
Old 05-21-2007, 08:54 PM
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Originally Posted by BojanC350z
the Z should be made only in manual
Like every other sports car out there?
Old 05-21-2007, 09:08 PM
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When I got my driver's license back in 1954 they assumed you would take the test on a car with a manual transmission. If you took the test with a car that had one of those new fangled automatics they stamped "automatic" on the license if you passed. You were not allowed to drive a car with a manual transmission. How times have changed.
Old 05-21-2007, 09:11 PM
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The Honda Si, that sporty little Civic, does not come with an automatic. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the infamous RSX did not come with an automatic either.
Old 05-21-2007, 09:56 PM
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To see where we are headed (and "what the future holds"), you only need to look at the what racers are using. Look at the cars running in the Indy 500. Not one of these cars has a clutch pedal. Instead, they all use a shift-paddle located on the steering-wheel-stalk. The "exotics" (Ferrari, Aston Martin, etc.) already have/use this as well. Audi uses this right now.

I hate to see the manual clutch go away, but its demise is a certainty. It will be replaced with paddle-shifting using an auto-clutch (as the racers and exotics are now using). "AT Sport-Shifters" will die a natural death.

How it works: 1st gear and reverse gear behave like AT. Once you are moving, you can set a gear with the paddle. If you manage to select (by clicking the paddle) the "wrong" gear for your engine speed, the car corrects your error putting you into the correct gear.

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Old 05-21-2007, 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by trains1937
The Honda Si, that sporty little Civic, does not come with an automatic. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the infamous RSX did not come with an automatic either.
The RSX came in auto. The RSX Type S did not come in automatic. Honda usually does this with their "performance inspired" models eg. Civic SI, RSX Type S, Integra Type R, etc.
Old 05-22-2007, 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Spike100
To see where we are headed (and "what the future holds"), you only need to look at the what racers are using. Look at the cars running in the Indy 500. Not one of these cars has a clutch pedal. Instead, they all use a shift-paddle located on the steering-wheel-stalk. The "exotics" (Ferrari, Aston Martin, etc.) already have/use this as well. Audi uses this right now.

I hate to see the manual clutch go away, but its demise is a certainty.
Yes, I'm afraid it could come to that - in time. But in Europe, at least, the market for MT is stil HUGE. It's been declining a little (especially over the last 8-9 years, I think) but I still see a market for MT in Europe many decades from now. In Denmark, for instance, I would estimate 80-90% of all cars are MT.

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Old 05-22-2007, 04:33 AM
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I see that even in new cars...seems other than base (cos they have no options), dealers are only ordering AT..... you should see the hassle it is to find an enthusiast in MT right now (at least in FL)..makes you have to settle for base since when you do find one chances are it wont be your color
Old 05-22-2007, 04:59 AM
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Most of you are too young to remember but, back in the 50s, cars got so big that some of the luxury cars with MT had 4 speeds in reverse for easy parking.
Old 05-22-2007, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by trains1937
Most of you are too young to remember but, back in the 50s, cars got so big that some of the luxury cars with MT had 4 speeds in reverse for easy parking.
Let's also not forget the almighty column shifts... Such fun.
Old 05-22-2007, 06:03 AM
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Simple. In this part of the world, manual transmission is considered laborious and unnecessary since convenience rules above everything else. There are countries where automatic transmission-equipped cars have very low resale value as no one wants to buy one. Here, it is the opposite. My friend tried to sell his older 5MT Accord in college; he almost gave up after 5 months.
Old 05-22-2007, 06:16 AM
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Et tu, DavidV??? Does it really matter if some of us prefer not to be burdened by up/downshifting in MD/DC's bumper-to-bumper traffic.

And who buys a car at CarMax anyways?
Old 05-22-2007, 06:25 AM
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Is it true that owners of the AT models receive a free pair of panties??!!!
Old 05-22-2007, 06:31 AM
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yeah, when i went to buy my Z i wanted at least an enthusiast but the only Z they had in manual was the Z i got. out of like ten of them, only one was manual!

and i dont care what anyone says about not knowing how to drive a manual transmission, when i bought my Z, i didn't know how to drive one but i bought it anyway and made my mom drive it home then i learned how to drive it in a couple of days!

so i also agree, the Z should ONLY come in MT. so if you want the Z that bad, and you don't know how to drive a standard, then learn =)


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