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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Tubbs
lol. Perhaps you should just leave it on.
Again, what's the big deal? How much of a difference is there between having it on and having it off, do you know? LOL to you.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by joe3906
Again, what's the big deal? How much of a difference is there between having it on and having it off, do you know? LOL to you.

thats what am wondering, people act like it cut 30rwhp or something...
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by md350
Yeah, a very big one. You'll especially notice it when flooring it in a straight line because it won't be cutting off engine power. If you've never floored it with TCS off you've never felt the Z's real speed before.

It won't stop your tires from spinning anymore though - that's its function, good or bad. So if aren't aware of this while driving, yes, you could lose it.
I drive normal, and a times I get on it, but hardly ever from a dead stop. My thing is to roll on and nail it. I had a 91 vette with a 354 rear that was mean off the line, but I doubt if a mildly modded Z is a threat off the line. Like I said, I'll try driving the car with the TCS off. Put down your flame throwers.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gabez33
thats what am wondering, people act like it cut 30rwhp or something...

You obviously never pushed the pedal all the way. TCS cuts throttle. Not sure why you guys are struggling with this.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by zand02max
LOL, guess I am a *****!
Hahaha guess so.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:13 PM
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So it kicks in straight lines too? blehhh.
I only really felt mine on some hard twisties and maybe letting off the clutch too hard at a light.
VDC Im sure can be great, but IMO for hard driving its worthless. I dont care what Nissan says.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Even in an auto when you mash it from a stop it will cut fuel sometimes, and obviously your not getting a good launch in an auto. Especially if you pull out onto like a 2 way highway and get on it, yep it will cut fuel bad, so instead of rocketing off... you just dont. lol.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by joe3906
Again, what's the big deal? How much of a difference is there between having it on and having it off, do you know? LOL to you.

Do I KNOW???? Yes I do know. I deal with VDC issues almost everytime it's on. If it senses any slippage whatsoever it cuts fuel and applies brakes. Sorry... not for me.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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Unless I am intentionally screwing around, it stays ON. Accelerating onto the highway I turn it off, because if you slip on a bit of sand the car won't move. When its raining, TCS is always on. It can start fixing hydroplaning before you even realize its happening.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 03:43 PM
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Nothing like accidentally getting the car sideways and having it cut the throttle and have to deal with snap oversteer.
I am pretty sure that you couldn't get it sideways with it on in the first place, unless you slam the wheel really hard. And in that case, you nor the computer is going to save you from going around. Unless you are being ridiculous, you aren't going to have snap oversteer because the throttle was cut by the ECU.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 04:49 PM
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another base driver here - off
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Zshazz
Well, its kind of like an anti-magnet. If you have it off, the car will be magnetically attracted to poles/concrete barriers/etc in the rain. If you have it on, your car will be less inclined to obey the magnetic force attracting it to its doom.
*funny*

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Off When I want to have fun.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:26 PM
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I ripped the harness out, anyone wanna buy it?
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by joe3906
I drive normal, and a times I get on it, but hardly ever from a dead stop. My thing is to roll on and nail it. I had a 91 vette with a 354 rear that was mean off the line, but I doubt if a mildly modded Z is a threat off the line. Like I said, I'll try driving the car with the TCS off. Put down your flame throwers.
A stock Z will want to kick on TCS in a straight line, and if you have stock tires, you'll probably spin them like crazy at a standstill. It does kick in from a roll sometimes too.

I was just talking about straight ahead driving though...give it some moderate gas around a turn and the back end will easily kick out. When I had my stock tires, I could hardly give it gas around turns at all, because even a touch would make me lose traction.

Experiment with it, you'll learn its boundaries. Just don't experiment by punching it around a turn, because you'll be sideways>upsidedown inside of a pole in half a second
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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I think a newbie to the Z is smart to leave TCS on at first. Once it kicks in a few times, usually when gasing it while turning right, you will have respect. Then you can turn it off and see what happens with a little bit too much throttle. I don't mind TCS off on autocross since there is not much to hit if I spin out. As for TCS making it impossible to launch well, that is silly. I still spin my tires and do 0-60 in 5.7 with TCS on (with stage II SC and stock LSD). It is possible to be quicker in a straight line with TCS off, but without practice, IMHO, launch times may be more consistently quick with TCS on. Ask the owners of a few vipers in my town after they hit the wall launching on the track or spun out and crashed on the street when gassing it if TCS is of any use .
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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^ Good point. If you feel you need to, you can still practice when its on. Everytime it activates, the slip night comes on. Watch that and see under what circumstances it turns on.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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gotta have it off unless it's snowing or raining, but if it's snowing I have snow tires and I don't even turn it off. Sometimes it'll be on and I"ll go fast around a roundabout and I'll feel it kick on and bog the car down, but most of the time during normal driving you never notice it one way or the other, but I like to have it off just in case.
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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i have to drive with TCS off because my front tires are a 40 profile
my rear tires are a 35 profile, which causes the car to "lean" more toward the rear shifting weight over the rear tires better
it also detects it as slip if i leave TCS on because of the smaller profile and more rotations

so i guess you could say i "lean back" :P
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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 09:13 PM
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My Z is a 2003 Performance model that comes with VDC.

I keep VDC on most of the time. But when I'm bad, VDC goes OFF.
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