Test drove an '07 Touring coupe yesterday...
#41
Originally Posted by sokudo9l6
if the 07's have 270-280whp then that means they have ~340-350HP at crank?
15% driveline loss is the norm.
320 flywheel horsepower equal 272 rear wheel horsepower
325 flywheel horspower equal 276.25 rear wheel horsepower
330 = 280.50
See how that works.
#44
Some of you are forgetting that the 03's were significantly lighter than the 05+
Back then, the 03 base coupes weighed at around 3200 lbs flat (3198 lbs to be exact).
Now, the base 06+ coupes weigh in at 3336 lbs. 06-07 Touring & GT's weight even more (3404 lbs).
Either way, im sure the 2007 350Z's are significantly faster. But as far as feel, I think the lighter 03 base coupes might have a different feel than the heavier 07's as far as lower RPM power.
07 Z's are faster; but 200lbs in weight difference can fool the mind.
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Back then, the 03 base coupes weighed at around 3200 lbs flat (3198 lbs to be exact).
Now, the base 06+ coupes weigh in at 3336 lbs. 06-07 Touring & GT's weight even more (3404 lbs).
Either way, im sure the 2007 350Z's are significantly faster. But as far as feel, I think the lighter 03 base coupes might have a different feel than the heavier 07's as far as lower RPM power.
07 Z's are faster; but 200lbs in weight difference can fool the mind.
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#45
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Originally Posted by 07-Zman
???
15% driveline loss is the norm.
320 flywheel horsepower equal 272 rear wheel horsepower
325 flywheel horspower equal 276.25 rear wheel horsepower
330 = 280.50
See how that works.
15% driveline loss is the norm.
320 flywheel horsepower equal 272 rear wheel horsepower
325 flywheel horspower equal 276.25 rear wheel horsepower
330 = 280.50
See how that works.
also needs to be noted the 306 HP is under the new SAE ratings
if the ratings were retro applied to the other engines it would be something like
279 for the 03-05 and 293 for the 2006 REV up so the 2007 probaly has about 313 HP under the old ratings
#46
This is why I held out for an '07 with no miles on it. Test drives sheesh! How can you make a reasonable conclusion romping on a brand new Z with 20 miles on it? The break-in recommendation is there for a reason.
#47
Originally Posted by cheshirecat79
That's completely correct. It also kicks in an additional 20HP every 3,000 miles thereafter, maxing out at 580.
That's what I heard. For real.
That's what I heard. For real.
beatiful.... this explains it all now..
#48
Originally Posted by Key Of Z
This is why I held out for an '07 with no miles on it. Test drives sheesh! How can you make a reasonable conclusion romping on a brand new Z with 20 miles on it? The break-in recommendation is there for a reason.
you think your 1-5 mile car made it off the boat and truck to the short trip to the gas station before you picked her up with out being flogged??? 7 years in the industry tells me NOT!!!!!! lol.. but you keep on thinking that you got her all babied... lmao.. but really im quiet serious..
#50
Originally Posted by SOLO-350Z
30 hp on a dyno is a pretty damn good power difference. Going from 245-250~ to 270-280rwhp now.
#51
Originally Posted by skaterbasist
Some of you are forgetting that the 03's were significantly lighter than the 05+
Back then, the 03 base coupes weighed at around 3200 lbs flat (3198 lbs to be exact).
Now, the base 06+ coupes weigh in at 3336 lbs. 06-07 Touring & GT's weight even more (3404 lbs).
Either way, im sure the 2007 350Z's are significantly faster. But as far as feel, I think the lighter 03 base coupes might have a different feel than the heavier 07's as far as lower RPM power.
07 Z's are faster; but 200lbs in weight difference can fool the mind.
.
Back then, the 03 base coupes weighed at around 3200 lbs flat (3198 lbs to be exact).
Now, the base 06+ coupes weigh in at 3336 lbs. 06-07 Touring & GT's weight even more (3404 lbs).
Either way, im sure the 2007 350Z's are significantly faster. But as far as feel, I think the lighter 03 base coupes might have a different feel than the heavier 07's as far as lower RPM power.
07 Z's are faster; but 200lbs in weight difference can fool the mind.
.
https://my350z.com/forum/showthread....ght=weighed+07
A member ACTUALY weighed his 07 Z WITH 19" I-FORGE WHEELS and it weighed 32XX lbs. Subtract the wheels and you have a car that weighes around what the 03 does but with 30+ more horsepower. Trust me, i know that it "may" not have "felt" faster but it really is.
#52
Originally Posted by fast kiwi
you think your 1-5 mile car made it off the boat and truck to the short trip to the gas station before you picked her up with out being flogged??? 7 years in the industry tells me NOT!!!!!! lol.. but you keep on thinking that you got her all babied... lmao.. but really im quiet serious..
We all know that some people beat the $hit out of a brand-new car on a test drive that they have no intention of buying. I like this car so far. I may keep it awhile.
#53
Originally Posted by Key Of Z
Of course not. I just tried to give myself the best possible chance.
We all know that some people beat the $hit out of a brand-new car on a test drive that they have no intention of buying. I like this car so far. I may keep it awhile.
We all know that some people beat the $hit out of a brand-new car on a test drive that they have no intention of buying. I like this car so far. I may keep it awhile.
well good for you.. lol.. and its more like most rather then some.. to be truly honest i dont mind the "test pilots" but if i had just one dollar for every TARD that thought he could out drive the car he's doing a demo in id be very rich!!!
Customer: Yeah i drive really well, i know what im doing..
Car (M5 for instance): WTF??? GTFO!!!!
Me: Just another loser who just got
I wasnt the salesmen but a guy i know had a customer flip an older body M3 upside down.. Took the traction off in the wett.. rain over some rail way track and the rest is history.. .
#54
Originally Posted by fast kiwi
you think your 1-5 mile car made it off the boat and truck to the short trip to the gas station before you picked her up with out being flogged??? 7 years in the industry tells me NOT!!!!!! lol.. but you keep on thinking that you got her all babied... lmao.. but really im quiet serious..
#55
Originally Posted by ginobetterfly
based on this, is it not recommended to buy a used SPORTS car? i mean i know that alot of people arent gonna follow the "break-in" recommendation. On the other hand, as soon as I drive that brand new 07 off the lot, ill lose $3-4k.
Quietly i wouldnt buy a sports car thats been demo'd.... a one owner car i would be all over.. thats what i did.. i bought my 05 with only 2000 miles on her.. and only owned for less then 4 months. was a 40K+ (new) car that i got for a tad over $30K very happy.. i worked the heck outa the salesman.. but i was fair, given this is what i do for a living..
#56
Originally Posted by fast kiwi
Quietly i wouldnt buy a sports car thats been demo'd.... a one owner car i would be all over.. thats what i did.. i bought my 05 with only 2000 miles on her.. and only owned for less then 4 months. was a 40K+ (new) car that i got for a tad over $30K very happy.. i worked the heck outa the salesman.. but i was fair, given this is what i do for a living..
#57
Originally Posted by ginobetterfly
based on this, is it not recommended to buy a used SPORTS car? i mean i know that alot of people arent gonna follow the "break-in" recommendation. On the other hand, as soon as I drive that brand new 07 off the lot, ill lose $3-4k.
#59
Originally Posted by Key Of Z
Regularly test driven.
yes.. the car that is put to one side to be driven so not all the cars get miles on them. they are normaly the ones that get hammered so to speak.. hope that helps.
demo'd= demonstration vehicle..
#60
Originally Posted by fast kiwi
yes.. the car that is put to one side to be driven so not all the cars get miles on them. they are normaly the ones that get hammered so to speak.. hope that helps.
demo'd= demonstration vehicle..
demo'd= demonstration vehicle..