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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Polo08816
Incorrect. You are going to make $100,000 a year as a pharmacist. It is an in-demand profession and supply is tightly controlled. I have many friends who are just average or below in their class and easily get a job as a retail pharmacist after graduation. For 40 hours a week, most of them are making anywhere from $90,000 to $120000 a year.

Most pharmacy programs require you to have a bachelor's degree first. Some don't. Those are the programs that you need to find. They save you time and money. I was admitted to a 6 year PharmD at a state school right out of high school. There simply aren't too many paths that can beat the immediate ROI like that.

Yup, that's exactly what I just said. You are doing a 6 year program instead of a regular 4 yeah bachelors degree. In other words, if somebody got their master's (2 years more) in engineering, they will be making similar to that amount of money (depending on masters emphasis, field, specialization, ect.). My point is that it totals up to 6 years in school. You are just doing all the schooling at once, which is a really good thing. You have done your research and got into the college major that you wanted straight out of high school. You are saving time and money, good stuff.

Talking about making money: low voltage consultants. Don't know how long or the path to get those jobs, but... wow, some of these consultants are charging over 250 an hour. So, if you are doing your own consulting, then you will have it made. Otherwise, you still should be getting over 100k a year with experience.

In the end though, it's not all about money
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by raulzito
In other words, if somebody got their master's (2 years more) in engineering, they will be making similar to that amount of money (depending on masters emphasis, field, specialization, ect.).
That is completely false. A masters in engineering will get you between 50 and 75k. That's a far cry from the standard 100k of pharmacy. Plus that 6th year you are doing rotations, not going to school. There is no better bang for the buck than pharmacy. No masters degrees will get you 6 figures either right out of school, except maybe if you go to an ivy league.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by raulzito
Yup, that's exactly what I just said. You are doing a 6 year program instead of a regular 4 yeah bachelors degree. In other words, if somebody got their master's (2 years more) in engineering, they will be making similar to that amount of money (depending on masters emphasis, field, specialization, ect.). My point is that it totals up to 6 years in school. You are just doing all the schooling at once, which is a really good thing. You have done your research and got into the college major that you wanted straight out of high school. You are saving time and money, good stuff.

Talking about making money: low voltage consultants. Don't know how long or the path to get those jobs, but... wow, some of these consultants are charging over 250 an hour. So, if you are doing your own consulting, then you will have it made. Otherwise, you still should be getting over 100k a year with experience.

In the end though, it's not all about money
You are correct, and most people overlook that point when they just look at statistics showing how much each major makes. I was debating that point with myself before I chose pharmacy. I knew that something like a MS ChemE or an MBA from a top 10 school would probably give you similar if not more earning potential than a PharmD based on current market conditions.

In the end, I felt that it would be a great advantage to secure that lifestyle in one step and after doing so, if I wanted to change to something more interesting and lucractive, I could always go back to school for another graduate degree while working at a retail pharmacy (although most of the time it's a salaried position, for all intents and purposes it's a hourly-based job).

It pays the bills very well for someone in their early 20s, funds my hobbies, is flexible enough with hours to allow me to pursue another career path with no loss in opportunity costs.

Back to the OP, I'm curious about UC Berkeley's MSF program. It's be great if you could give a brief description of it and it always interests me to see what people want to pursue in their lives. What did you want to do after graduating from the MSF program?
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:28 PM
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Blah- use teh Z too pick up a kugr and have teh kugr paid four skool.
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Bret86944
That is completely false. A masters in engineering will get you between 50 and 75k. That's a far cry from the standard 100k of pharmacy. Plus that 6th year you are doing rotations, not going to school. There is no better bang for the buck than pharmacy. No masters degrees will get you 6 figures either right out of school, except maybe if you go to an ivy league.
I believe 6 figures is definitely possible the a Master's in the right kind of engineering in the right field (ie. energy sector).

If you're not in the pharmaceutical industry, upwards mobility for income as a pharmacist is more limited, but not completely limited.

Not all pharmacy schools have a good ROI either. As an Officer Candidate in the Army NG, I pay nearly nothing for school. That is an incredible "bang for the buck" for my particular situation. Another pharmacy school, St. John's University in NYC, on the other hand may not be such a great ROI if each year costs a pharmacy major $40,000 ($40,000 * 6 = $240,000 in debt).
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:33 PM
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I've finally decided to do it. I have to sell the Z.

I was recently accepted into a Graduate Master's Degree program at UC Berkeley, and unfortunately they charge an arm and a leg for tuition...almost $15,500 per semester to give you an idea. I'd probably have to trade in my Z to them just to pay for one semester...and then there's the issue of books...ugh.

I've driven my Z for close to a year now and didn't expect to have to sell it so soon. Unfortunately needs do change eventually, and right now my career and future are a lot more important than owning a nice car. I was thinking of selling it private party then using the cash to pay for school, and the leftovers to buy a small motorcycle, beater car, or even a scooter. Just something to putt around town in that gets excellent mileage.

So yeah, this is goodbye depending on how long it takes to sell the Z. I'm going to miss being a part of this community...and you might miss me and all 190 of my posts

Take care and drive safe everybody.
I did the same thing when I started grad school, sold the Z and got a 4 door car (gf, now wife, didn't have any transportation at the time).
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Polo08816
I believe 6 figures is definitely possible the a Master's in the right kind of engineering in the right field (ie. energy sector).

Nuclear engineering FTW!
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Polo08816
I believe 6 figures is definitely possible the a Master's in the right kind of engineering in the right field (ie. energy sector).

If you're not in the pharmaceutical industry, upwards mobility for income as a pharmacist is more limited, but not completely limited.

Not all pharmacy schools have a good ROI either. As an Officer Candidate in the Army NG, I pay nearly nothing for school. That is an incredible "bang for the buck" for my particular situation. Another pharmacy school, St. John's University in NYC, on the other hand may not be such a great ROI if each year costs a pharmacy major $40,000 ($40,000 * 6 = $240,000 in debt).
Yeah, you are right.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 11:00 AM
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Knowledge is definitely power. I don't know many master graduates, but I know many people with just bachelors degree starting off at 70k. One of them a year later is making over 80k, don't know the exact figure. Ofcourse, they are all work in industrial engineering or oil/gas industries. Most of the companies they work for are very large, BP, exxon, ect. I think those people got great jobs, but they sometimes work 60 hours a week (salary). Generally speaking though, a typical Engineer will start around 45-60k a year.

Anyways, good luck with post-Grad school.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rocky2
Use your future higher paying career to own a 370z.
ditto
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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Education FTW. You're too young to own a Z anyway. lol, j/k
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