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Old 06-09-2011, 09:02 AM
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http://www.iihs.org/externaldata/srdata/docs/sr4605.pdf
Old 06-09-2011, 09:07 AM
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hmm kinda scary!!
Old 06-09-2011, 09:57 AM
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Thats horrible.
Old 06-09-2011, 09:57 AM
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Where does it say those are 17 year olds?

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Old 06-09-2011, 10:00 AM
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Yeah, I caught the link to that study from Jalopnik today.

Cliff notes: The 2005-2008 350Z is considered to be the deadliest car sold in the United States with an overall death rate of 143 per million registered vehicle years.

Given that the 350Z didn't sell as many cars as say, a Ford F150, using the "million registered vehicle years" seems like a pretty flawed way to create a statistic. The same group that did this study, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, gave the 350Z 4 and 5 star ratings all the way around, so which is it? Safe or unsafe?

I'm not generally the type to stick my head in the sand, but you can lie with statistics (read the book "How to Lie with Statistics"), and this study certainly leaves me with some doubt as to its veracity.
Old 06-09-2011, 10:03 AM
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Where in the article does it say they were 17 year olds?
Old 06-09-2011, 10:09 AM
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Wow, that is not a nice statistic to have.
Old 06-09-2011, 10:13 AM
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Interesting.
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How do you roll over a 350z? On the news they show the convertible! But there is no mention of a convertible in the report? 350z is the deadliest car according to highway safety. That should be good for some more deprecation in the 350z's. thanks

overall: all crash types; numbers in parentheses are 95 percent confidence bounds
mv: driver death rate in multiple-vehicle crashes
sv: driver death rate in single-vehicle crashes
sv roll: driver death rate in single-vehicle rollovers

overall mv sv roll
143 53 90 63
Nissan 350Z 2-door sports car midsize

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Old 06-09-2011, 10:52 AM
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glad im 33.. that makes me feel better about having a MOMO and no airbags. ha.
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Where are all the other sport cars out there? Is it just the Z their focusing on?
Old 06-09-2011, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by zakmartin
Yeah, I caught the link to that study from Jalopnik today.

Cliff notes: The 2005-2008 350Z is considered to be the deadliest car sold in the United States with an overall death rate of 143 per million registered vehicle years.

Given that the 350Z didn't sell as many cars as say, a Ford F150, using the "million registered vehicle years" seems like a pretty flawed way to create a statistic. The same group that did this study, the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, gave the 350Z 4 and 5 star ratings all the way around, so which is it? Safe or unsafe?

I'm not generally the type to stick my head in the sand, but you can lie with statistics (read the book "How to Lie with Statistics"), and this study certainly leaves me with some doubt as to its veracity.
The statistic seems like it's meant more to illustrate the the overall likelihood of fatal accidents in the vehicle, not to indicate an individual vehicle's safety rating. I suspect that driver behavior is what drives this number up considerably; even with a 4-5star IIHS rated car, idiocy behind the wheel will push up the fatality rate.
Old 06-09-2011, 11:49 AM
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Totally behavior, my anti pass me reflex has caused some close ones. People can be really ****ing stupid trying to squeeze in front of me. I had a volvo bounce off my pass side at about 80mph on the freeway, I saw him coming in mirror and my foot was hitting pressing harder before I could think. Stupid of me, especially with passenger in car. I was sure the volvo wrecked but no police report.
Old 06-09-2011, 12:19 PM
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^yeah you're an idiot. you basically blocked them on purpose and damaged your car?
Old 06-09-2011, 12:36 PM
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Haha ^
Or he just doesn't like people cutting him off
Old 06-09-2011, 12:47 PM
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No, they didn't have to try it. There was a semi in their lane about 3 car lengths ahead of me when I saw them. I was doing about 60 along with all 4 lanes, traffic was slowing because of a curve. I saw them coming and gave 5th gear some gas. Dumb *** had alot of time to slow down and no reason to come into my lane. There was no turn signal and if I hadn't hit the gas they could have clipped the front of my car sending me into a spin.

Damage was totally their fault, my passenger, the police and my insurance company told me I did nothing wrong. In a similar situation now I would probably hit 4th and try to get further away, there really is no solution to an idiot driving 80mph at a truck doing 60 in heavy traffic.

Thanks for calling me an idiot, would you do that in person to someone you had just met during your first conversation?

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Old 06-09-2011, 12:57 PM
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There can be no question as to why insuring a Z is so expensive
Old 06-09-2011, 01:41 PM
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I see that no one has been killed in a 370Z. That's why I got one.
Old 06-09-2011, 01:48 PM
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Goes into limp in mode before you get going too fast I guess.

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Old 06-09-2011, 01:50 PM
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gonnnnnnnggggg.

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