Nismo Reps in my store today! Need help!
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Hey everyone... thanks for the input! I have heard they ARE reading this so maybe it will help... maybe not... but in either case our voices are being heard!!! You guys know me well enough by now to know I'm with you on all accounts! I NEED MORE POWER DAMN IT!!!! And I won't get it with a t-shirt.
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Id really love and S tune ECU of some sort that will not void warranty..
Esspecially after hearing how the Z run lean with some of the aftermarket mods that are out, such as the RT cats and so on. This would be a great way to fix it, and keep our warranty. And of cousrse make a bit more power.
Nismo Rep's, if you make the ECU, I'll buy it!!
- Nismo wheels, suspension, exhaust, wing, and more are coming for my car. I'd LOVE the ECU...
Esspecially after hearing how the Z run lean with some of the aftermarket mods that are out, such as the RT cats and so on. This would be a great way to fix it, and keep our warranty. And of cousrse make a bit more power.
Nismo Rep's, if you make the ECU, I'll buy it!!
- Nismo wheels, suspension, exhaust, wing, and more are coming for my car. I'd LOVE the ECU...
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Originally posted by Dissident
This is why they need to focus on making Nismo versions of a car rather than jsut parts. They're business model seems skewed. For example, you can buy AMG (or SVT?) parts for a pretty premium, but most people will rather buy a whole package, since a) you know it's gonna all work together, b) it's more convinient, c) the price of the aftermarket goodies of the quality NISMO is shooting for aren't as expensive when you factor in the cost of the stock parts you're NOT buying. NISMO suspension is way too much $$ for me, but how much more does it really cost over the OEM one? I'd pay that price difference in a hearbeat and give my stock exhaust (or shocks, or flywheel, etc...) back wihout a blink. Especially for something that was installed at the factory and NOT the dealer
Keep selling the parts to those that just want a little bit more, or can't afford the high-end $40K 350hp Z, but that's where they outta be making the money...
This is why they need to focus on making Nismo versions of a car rather than jsut parts. They're business model seems skewed. For example, you can buy AMG (or SVT?) parts for a pretty premium, but most people will rather buy a whole package, since a) you know it's gonna all work together, b) it's more convinient, c) the price of the aftermarket goodies of the quality NISMO is shooting for aren't as expensive when you factor in the cost of the stock parts you're NOT buying. NISMO suspension is way too much $$ for me, but how much more does it really cost over the OEM one? I'd pay that price difference in a hearbeat and give my stock exhaust (or shocks, or flywheel, etc...) back wihout a blink. Especially for something that was installed at the factory and NOT the dealer
Keep selling the parts to those that just want a little bit more, or can't afford the high-end $40K 350hp Z, but that's where they outta be making the money...
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but on the other hand, there have been these cars...
NISMO 400R
NISMO 270R
Anyone against having NISMO play an integral part of Nissan lineup just as the M/AMG divisions do?
NISMO 400R
NISMO 270R
Anyone against having NISMO play an integral part of Nissan lineup just as the M/AMG divisions do?
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Originally posted by igor@af
Anyone against having NISMO play an integral part of Nissan lineup just as the M/AMG divisions do?
Anyone against having NISMO play an integral part of Nissan lineup just as the M/AMG divisions do?
Sorry, couldn't pass that up.
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Originally posted by igor@af
haha. We need to get in on the inside and put one of us hardcore Nissan enthusiasts in NISMO management.
haha. We need to get in on the inside and put one of us hardcore Nissan enthusiasts in NISMO management.
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When are the car companies going to learn? Cars that are generic and dont have passion dont sell compared to those that do in the sports car market. We dont need transportation from A-Z only or we would have got a civic or sentra. To put it bluntly, follow what you preach, shift_passion, shift_performance, shift_your old way of building uninspiring cars with little performance.
Nissan, you got the Z mostly right, now listen to your customers. You can keep the touring model for 90% of those Z owners that want a Z like you have it but build a moderately (cost effect for us and you) track model with real track modifications.
When Nissan designers designed the 1st Z that created the interest to develop the 350Z we have today, it was not from the Nissan management, it was from the Nissan designers that were enthusiast. Listen to your instints again and make a model that you would want to drive yourself. Fight for a Z that begs enthusiasts to buy it eben if they are not looking for a new car. People buy Z's out of passion.
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Nissan, you got the Z mostly right, now listen to your customers. You can keep the touring model for 90% of those Z owners that want a Z like you have it but build a moderately (cost effect for us and you) track model with real track modifications.
When Nissan designers designed the 1st Z that created the interest to develop the 350Z we have today, it was not from the Nissan management, it was from the Nissan designers that were enthusiast. Listen to your instints again and make a model that you would want to drive yourself. Fight for a Z that begs enthusiasts to buy it eben if they are not looking for a new car. People buy Z's out of passion.
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i agree zland... the nissan flagship is the z... to chump out now is a dishonor to the entire z history... its humble beginnings was to make a fun sport car with some ***** for the common folk... z is not for the rich... its for anyone who love cars...
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Originally posted by igor@af
but on the other hand, there have been these cars...
NISMO 400R
NISMO 270R
Anyone against having NISMO play an integral part of Nissan lineup just as the M/AMG divisions do?
but on the other hand, there have been these cars...
NISMO 400R
NISMO 270R
Anyone against having NISMO play an integral part of Nissan lineup just as the M/AMG divisions do?
Or these cars --- now sold my NISMO ... as "complete cars" in Japan...
Sometimes wish I bought the last of the GT-Rs before being discontinued.
Here is the link: http://www.nismo.co.jp/ ... upper left corner of page...
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Kind of pricey... but.. nice...
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NISMO logo
Interesting to note...
In the Japan NISMO site... there is an announcement regarding the new NISMO logo... which you can click --- on the upper right side of the page.
Interesting to note.. you are unable to access that link. Maybe for 1 of 2 reasons..
1/ That link is dead
2/ NISMO against all odds came to its senses and decided against that GD stupid red donut... and decided to keep the solid red sun.
If they go for that GD stupid donut... NISMO has really lost it... together with all the bad feelings by US customers or potential customers...
Better to spend their marketing $ or yen into enhancing their products rather than promoting a stupid red donut.
Not certain if you can see the link since it is in Japanese... but here is the date of the link.
General News | 2004.2.10
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In the Japan NISMO site... there is an announcement regarding the new NISMO logo... which you can click --- on the upper right side of the page.
Interesting to note.. you are unable to access that link. Maybe for 1 of 2 reasons..
1/ That link is dead
2/ NISMO against all odds came to its senses and decided against that GD stupid red donut... and decided to keep the solid red sun.
If they go for that GD stupid donut... NISMO has really lost it... together with all the bad feelings by US customers or potential customers...
Better to spend their marketing $ or yen into enhancing their products rather than promoting a stupid red donut.
Not certain if you can see the link since it is in Japanese... but here is the date of the link.
General News | 2004.2.10
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