350Z vs S2000
You listed off all of those cars knowing they are faster then the Z at higher speeds ( EVO8 debatable )
Having the EV08 in the same list as a Z06, a 360, is odd, you are in a since saying the EV08 is on par with those cars which it is NOT. ( at least that is how it sounds )
Having the EV08 in the same list as a Z06, a 360, is odd, you are in a since saying the EV08 is on par with those cars which it is NOT. ( at least that is how it sounds )
I owned both cars at the same time for a week or two. Had a friend (who is actually a better driver than me btw) hop into the S2k while I piloted the Z. No comparison whatsoever. 03 S2k. From 0-100 and from 100 up the Z walked the S2k. Sorry. The two cars are not even remotely comparable at high speeds, at least in terms of power. I've put quite a few miles on each, so I'd know.
Handling is a different entity entirely though.
NzZ
Handling is a different entity entirely though.
NzZ
S2k vs 350Z ?
Sounds ... Advantage Z (most people say so)
Looks ... Advantage Z (most people say so)
Small and Cute ... Advantage S2k
On the track ... Anyone has more videos ? Looks like Z to me. I read the "david vs goliath" Road&Track about z on the track.
Acceleration ... I guess Z.
Torque ... I guess Z.
Handling on narrow street... I guess S2k.
Chasis ... I guess Z.
Brake ... I guess Z.
Feel of solidity... I guess Z.
Fun to drive ... I guess S2k
Daily drive ... I guess Z
Exotic ... I guess Z.
Uneven pavement ... ???
Rainy ... ???
Size ... I guess Z.
Economy (conservative drive) ... I guess S2k
Economy (high speed, over drive)... I guess Z.
Basic Price ... I guess Z
Respect ... I guess people in this forum respect Z more than S2k.
.. and lots lots more criterias. (example cup holder, long distance travel, go to store to buy cigarettes, dating, parking, insurance, price, stereo, maintenance .. etc .. etc..
Sounds ... Advantage Z (most people say so)
Looks ... Advantage Z (most people say so)
Small and Cute ... Advantage S2k
On the track ... Anyone has more videos ? Looks like Z to me. I read the "david vs goliath" Road&Track about z on the track.
Acceleration ... I guess Z.
Torque ... I guess Z.
Handling on narrow street... I guess S2k.
Chasis ... I guess Z.
Brake ... I guess Z.
Feel of solidity... I guess Z.
Fun to drive ... I guess S2k
Daily drive ... I guess Z
Exotic ... I guess Z.
Uneven pavement ... ???
Rainy ... ???
Size ... I guess Z.
Economy (conservative drive) ... I guess S2k
Economy (high speed, over drive)... I guess Z.
Basic Price ... I guess Z
Respect ... I guess people in this forum respect Z more than S2k.
.. and lots lots more criterias. (example cup holder, long distance travel, go to store to buy cigarettes, dating, parking, insurance, price, stereo, maintenance .. etc .. etc..
My version
S2k vs 350Z ?
Sounds ... Tie, sweet sound of the Z, or 9k rpm
Looks ... subjective, I choose Z.
Small and Cute ... Both are not "cute"
On the track ... Driver, more tight turns = s2k
Acceleration ...Z
Torque ... Z
Handling on narrow street... S2k
Chasis ... S2k ( thing is STIFF! )
Brake ... Dont know
Feel of solidity... Z
Fun to drive ... S2k
Daily drive ... Both, Z is more daily driveable, but top down is FUN!
Exotic ... Z
Uneven pavement ... Z
Rainy ... Z (s2k sucks in water)
Size ... S2k ( I like a smaller car )
Economy (conservative drive) ... S2k
Economy (high speed, over drive)... S2k
Basic Price ... Z
Respect ... Both
.. and lots lots more criterias. (example cup holder, long distance travel, go to store to buy cigarettes, dating, parking, insurance, price, stereo, maintenance .. etc .. etc..
Cup holder, I like to have them but many believe a real sports car shoudl not have them. Long distant travle? Id rather take a trip in the S2k with the top down! Z chills at 3k rpm at 80mph and with nismo exhaust and hfcats it can get annoying. Going to the store?! Who cares.. Dating.. Z deffinitly, parking
? Insurance, BIG advantage to the Z stereo? Both suck, maintenance, not sure.
S2k vs 350Z ?
Sounds ... Tie, sweet sound of the Z, or 9k rpm
Looks ... subjective, I choose Z.
Small and Cute ... Both are not "cute"
On the track ... Driver, more tight turns = s2k
Acceleration ...Z
Torque ... Z
Handling on narrow street... S2k
Chasis ... S2k ( thing is STIFF! )
Brake ... Dont know
Feel of solidity... Z
Fun to drive ... S2k
Daily drive ... Both, Z is more daily driveable, but top down is FUN!
Exotic ... Z
Uneven pavement ... Z
Rainy ... Z (s2k sucks in water)
Size ... S2k ( I like a smaller car )
Economy (conservative drive) ... S2k
Economy (high speed, over drive)... S2k
Basic Price ... Z
Respect ... Both
.. and lots lots more criterias. (example cup holder, long distance travel, go to store to buy cigarettes, dating, parking, insurance, price, stereo, maintenance .. etc .. etc..
Cup holder, I like to have them but many believe a real sports car shoudl not have them. Long distant travle? Id rather take a trip in the S2k with the top down! Z chills at 3k rpm at 80mph and with nismo exhaust and hfcats it can get annoying. Going to the store?! Who cares.. Dating.. Z deffinitly, parking
I drove an S2000 and I was considering getting one until I drove it. The sound system was terrible. The ride was brutal in my opinion. I didn't think there was much get up and go when I hit the gas. I am 5'11" and 220 lbs. Not fat either. I was touching shoulders with the salesman on the ride. The seat was as far back as it would go and I was uncomfortable still. I wanted to stop the car and end the test drive and walk back to the dealership. I couldn't have been more disappointed. I like the 350Z coupe but I love a convertible. I like the open feeling and since it will just be a toy car I decided to wait a year and get one of those over the coupe this year. 350Z is one of the nicest cars I have ever driven and I have driven many, many cars. I used to work for Enterprise Rent-A-Car. I have driven many cars.
Originally posted by turboscott
350Z is one of the nicest cars I have ever driven and I have driven many, many cars. I used to work for Enterprise Rent-A-Car. I have driven many cars.
350Z is one of the nicest cars I have ever driven and I have driven many, many cars. I used to work for Enterprise Rent-A-Car. I have driven many cars.
Originally posted by yiaquemini
As for shiri lol, s2k accerate better downlow than 350z, and 350z is faster at high speeds? lol, right, u know soo much about both cars. Im not even in the mood to argue, so think what u will mr expert.
"With 4 posts, I don't expect you to know too much about either cars." and u are just soooo mad that i didnt praise the 350z like a god and express my own oppinion lol, its not that serious, its just a forum. u spent all that time, wasted all that space, flaming me to confirm something that ive already admited my self. That 350z's engine is a sports cars engine. Now i know where ur 322 posts come from lol. calm down. that was a totally useless post that picks at an argument thats already over. more like ure trying to show off ur knowlege about cars than adding anything useful to the argument. Post Wh*re
As for shiri lol, s2k accerate better downlow than 350z, and 350z is faster at high speeds? lol, right, u know soo much about both cars. Im not even in the mood to argue, so think what u will mr expert.
"With 4 posts, I don't expect you to know too much about either cars." and u are just soooo mad that i didnt praise the 350z like a god and express my own oppinion lol, its not that serious, its just a forum. u spent all that time, wasted all that space, flaming me to confirm something that ive already admited my self. That 350z's engine is a sports cars engine. Now i know where ur 322 posts come from lol. calm down. that was a totally useless post that picks at an argument thats already over. more like ure trying to show off ur knowlege about cars than adding anything useful to the argument. Post Wh*re
S2000 is faster than the Z down low. Check all the 0-62mph and 1/4 mile times, they have the advantage of having a better p/w ratio.
Z is stronger once it gets moving, and will pull on the S upon reaching higher speed.
The best thing about the Z is that with its torque, it still has more than enough power to keep up with the lighter S down low.
If both cars don't mess up to 100mph, its a drivers' race (like a lot of street encounters as most people don't drive faster than 100mph).
Beyond 100mph, S eats Z's dust.
I don't even own a 350z or an S2000, so I think I'm pretty fair in my assessment.
Shiri,
I believe you are mistaken about the power/weight ratio. The Z has 287 hp distributed amongst 3200 lbs (give or take a few). BTW I'm referring to a Z coupe here.
S2k has 240 hp pulling 2835lbs (off of Honda's web site).
So let's see: Z has 11.15 lbs/hp.
S2000 has 11.8lbs/hp.
Also, I've seen Zs and S2ks go at it..and they are pretty close. The s2k is definitely not quicker, I'd say they're in the same ballpark until about 90 where the Z pulls ahead.
Just my $.02
NzZ
I believe you are mistaken about the power/weight ratio. The Z has 287 hp distributed amongst 3200 lbs (give or take a few). BTW I'm referring to a Z coupe here.
S2k has 240 hp pulling 2835lbs (off of Honda's web site).
So let's see: Z has 11.15 lbs/hp.
S2000 has 11.8lbs/hp.
Also, I've seen Zs and S2ks go at it..and they are pretty close. The s2k is definitely not quicker, I'd say they're in the same ballpark until about 90 where the Z pulls ahead.
Just my $.02
NzZ
As far as acceleration goes, I actually raced an S2K at the local 1/4 mile track. It was actually the best race I ever had. I beat the S2K by 0.05 seconds. I posted a 14.24 @ 100.3 MPH. I heard later that the announcer was going crazy. I lead all the way down but never got more that 1 1/2 car legnths ahead. I don't know if his car was modified but mine was bone stock.
Originally posted by Shiri
I can tell you are so green in all of this.
S2000 is faster than the Z down low. Check all the 0-62mph and 1/4 mile times, they have the advantage of having a better p/w ratio.
Z is stronger once it gets moving, and will pull on the S upon reaching higher speed.
The best thing about the Z is that with its torque, it still has more than enough power to keep up with the lighter S down low.
If both cars don't mess up to 100mph, its a drivers' race (like a lot of street encounters as most people don't drive faster than 100mph).
Beyond 100mph, S eats Z's dust.
I don't even own a 350z or an S2000, so I think I'm pretty fair in my assessment.
I can tell you are so green in all of this.
S2000 is faster than the Z down low. Check all the 0-62mph and 1/4 mile times, they have the advantage of having a better p/w ratio.
Z is stronger once it gets moving, and will pull on the S upon reaching higher speed.
The best thing about the Z is that with its torque, it still has more than enough power to keep up with the lighter S down low.
If both cars don't mess up to 100mph, its a drivers' race (like a lot of street encounters as most people don't drive faster than 100mph).
Beyond 100mph, S eats Z's dust.
I don't even own a 350z or an S2000, so I think I'm pretty fair in my assessment.
No no no. The Z has alot of low end torque. I dont know if you konw muhc about the s2000 but they dont make alot of their power until you rev the **** out of them. Dont get me wrong I am a big honda fan (use to own a honda) but those 4 bangers dont make alot of power til you really wind them out
Thats why people drop them at about 7k rpm. If done correctly they are FAST down low. No it's not the best thing for the car but it works. Shiri knows what he is talking about.
Although I think the Z is faster in the acceleration department period.
As said a million times before, it is ALL driver, every last bit.
Although I think the Z is faster in the acceleration department period.
As said a million times before, it is ALL driver, every last bit.
Originally posted by aaaaa
i dont know....i liked s2000 but that model never change....from begging of 2000..
it's been 4 years now.....
i think 350Z is better looking and more attractive than s2000
i dont know....i liked s2000 but that model never change....from begging of 2000..
it's been 4 years now.....
i think 350Z is better looking and more attractive than s2000
Originally posted by Shiri
I can tell you are so green in all of this.
I don't even own a 350z or an S2000, so I think I'm pretty fair in my assessment.
I can tell you are so green in all of this.
I don't even own a 350z or an S2000, so I think I'm pretty fair in my assessment.
Here is my take on this....
S2k vs 350Z ?
Sounds ... The engine note of the S2000 is better than the 350Z...I just love the wail as the S2000 is redlining....however the exhaust note of the 350Z is better but sound is so subjective....
Looks ... I'd say the S2000 looks better, is more proportioned, well age better....really a classic car. Plus it is a roadster so a car without a top looks great for me (i realize that some people couldn't care less about a drop top)....and the S2000 looks infinitely better than the 350Z roadster IMO.....
Small and Cute ... S2000 is smaller...cuter??? i can't judge
On the track ... For an experienced driver I'd have to give the edge to the S2000....while it is more unforgiving than the 350Z I believe that the S2000 brakes better (I guess the 350Z track would be more comparable...but I've never driven that) and are more willing to stand the abuse of repeated laps....the only way I can see the 350Z beating an S2000 on the track is because the track is in such a way that the S2000 can't be in it's narrow power band (or if speeds are triple digits for a large portion of the track)
Acceleration ... slight edge to the 350Z with its broad torque band
Torque ... 350Z...easily
Handling on narrow street... I'd give it the S2000 both in terms of max grip, transitions, and overall "feel" and "tossibility"...the 350Z is rather heavy and while it does handle great, I don't think it has quite the feel that I like with the S2000 (light and nimble)
Chasis ... this is a toss up and can't really even be compared...the S2000 is a roadster so inherently has a disadvantage....i'm sure the 350Z's frame is stronger....but the 350Z roadster has an added 200lbs? of weight to strengthen that same frame??? Does chassis include weight?
Brake ... im going to have to say S2000 easily....unless you bring the Track model then I don't know
Feel of solidity... probably Z
Fun to drive ... this is subjective...but i don't think the 350Z coupe can beat a S2000 roadster with the top down
Daily drive ... 350Z because of it's more useable power, more room, etc
Exotic ... S2000...it's much more rare than the 350Z, the 2.0l F20C engine is used only in the S2000 and revs to 9000, S2000 being a roadster is a plus....the 350Z just shares too much parts with other Nissan vehicles IMO
Uneven pavement ... even
Rainy ... 350Z...but this might just be tires?
Size ... i prefer small and lightweight S2000...some people might want more substantial....
Economy (conservative drive) ... what does this mean?
Economy (high speed, over drive)... what does this mean?
Basic Price ... Z can be had for cheaper....but then again the S2000 isn't that much more expensive.....
Respect ... huh? both cars are respected.... [/B][/QUOTE]
S2k vs 350Z ?
Sounds ... The engine note of the S2000 is better than the 350Z...I just love the wail as the S2000 is redlining....however the exhaust note of the 350Z is better but sound is so subjective....
Looks ... I'd say the S2000 looks better, is more proportioned, well age better....really a classic car. Plus it is a roadster so a car without a top looks great for me (i realize that some people couldn't care less about a drop top)....and the S2000 looks infinitely better than the 350Z roadster IMO.....
Small and Cute ... S2000 is smaller...cuter??? i can't judge

On the track ... For an experienced driver I'd have to give the edge to the S2000....while it is more unforgiving than the 350Z I believe that the S2000 brakes better (I guess the 350Z track would be more comparable...but I've never driven that) and are more willing to stand the abuse of repeated laps....the only way I can see the 350Z beating an S2000 on the track is because the track is in such a way that the S2000 can't be in it's narrow power band (or if speeds are triple digits for a large portion of the track)
Acceleration ... slight edge to the 350Z with its broad torque band
Torque ... 350Z...easily
Handling on narrow street... I'd give it the S2000 both in terms of max grip, transitions, and overall "feel" and "tossibility"...the 350Z is rather heavy and while it does handle great, I don't think it has quite the feel that I like with the S2000 (light and nimble)
Chasis ... this is a toss up and can't really even be compared...the S2000 is a roadster so inherently has a disadvantage....i'm sure the 350Z's frame is stronger....but the 350Z roadster has an added 200lbs? of weight to strengthen that same frame??? Does chassis include weight?
Brake ... im going to have to say S2000 easily....unless you bring the Track model then I don't know

Feel of solidity... probably Z
Fun to drive ... this is subjective...but i don't think the 350Z coupe can beat a S2000 roadster with the top down

Daily drive ... 350Z because of it's more useable power, more room, etc
Exotic ... S2000...it's much more rare than the 350Z, the 2.0l F20C engine is used only in the S2000 and revs to 9000, S2000 being a roadster is a plus....the 350Z just shares too much parts with other Nissan vehicles IMO
Uneven pavement ... even
Rainy ... 350Z...but this might just be tires?
Size ... i prefer small and lightweight S2000...some people might want more substantial....
Economy (conservative drive) ... what does this mean?
Economy (high speed, over drive)... what does this mean?
Basic Price ... Z can be had for cheaper....but then again the S2000 isn't that much more expensive.....
Respect ... huh? both cars are respected.... [/B][/QUOTE]
Torque rules, I can be at a traffic jam and speed drop down from 50+ to 30mph but I dont need to down shift from 5th to 3rd or 2nd gear because of the Z torque I can just slowly bring the speed back up to 50+
Originally posted by ml2316
the vq is more of a truck engine (or at least a multi-purpose engine) than a sports car engine. i would think sports cars would benefit from a bigger rev range if it results in taller gears, fewer shifts to get to speed.
the vq is more of a truck engine (or at least a multi-purpose engine) than a sports car engine. i would think sports cars would benefit from a bigger rev range if it results in taller gears, fewer shifts to get to speed.


