350Z vs. 2005 Porsche 911 Carrera
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Originally posted by The Brickyard Rat
I'm looking for comments by those familiar with both cars; no interest in a "flame war" eithor direction.
I'm looking for comments by those familiar with both cars; no interest in a "flame war" eithor direction.
911's are virtually race cars detuned for the street, while the 350z is a street car that can be uptuned for the track. What that means is that the 911 is more trackworthy out of the box than a 350z.
The air-cooled motors are even more trackworthy because of the dry oil sump. The water-cooled motors (excluding 911 Turbo, 911 GT-3, and 911 GT-2) get the short end of the stick and do not have a dry oil sump.
Porsche designs good race motors, but their mass production reliability seems inconsistent at times.
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Im sorry "maxdriverwantsZ" but you have never driven a 911 and you do not own a Z so how can you really comment?
One of the guys I work with has a 1999 911 and it honestly does not feel faster than the Z. I drove it for a whole day and can tell you for sure that it handles better and that it feels more civilized.
It just seemed to lack TQ to me. To be honest I just was not as impressed as I thought I would be. The newer 911s are faster so I may have had a different reaction to those.
The 05 should spank us in the straights and should dominate us on the autoX due to its weight/power ratio...hand built engine....and rear engine design. The 05 will also be capable of sub 5 sec. 0-60 times.
One of the guys I work with has a 1999 911 and it honestly does not feel faster than the Z. I drove it for a whole day and can tell you for sure that it handles better and that it feels more civilized.
It just seemed to lack TQ to me. To be honest I just was not as impressed as I thought I would be. The newer 911s are faster so I may have had a different reaction to those.
The 05 should spank us in the straights and should dominate us on the autoX due to its weight/power ratio...hand built engine....and rear engine design. The 05 will also be capable of sub 5 sec. 0-60 times.
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yea i guess your right but i still feel that the 911 is a better car from the interior, and from riding in it, but it should be it costs twice as much
p.s. I have driven a z
p.s. I have driven a z
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Sorry...I just noticed you were new... I didnt mean to come off as a d!ck and I hope you get your Z. Actually I used to own a Black 2000 Maxima SE before I got my Z.
It was a great car!.....but no Z
It was a great car!.....but no Z
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Originally posted by Steel Heals
The reason our hp curve starts to drop is that the ECU is programmed to start running rich to discourage drivers from hitting the rev limiter. A reflash like Technosquare's removes that richening of the a/f curve in addition to raising the rev limiter. The result is more pull above 6000 rpm...
...still won't make us beat a 911, though!
The reason our hp curve starts to drop is that the ECU is programmed to start running rich to discourage drivers from hitting the rev limiter. A reflash like Technosquare's removes that richening of the a/f curve in addition to raising the rev limiter. The result is more pull above 6000 rpm...
...still won't make us beat a 911, though!
BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ, wrong.
Trust me, the reason we dip so agressively up top is NOT our fuel maps. GOD I WISH it were THAT easy.
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evo and gtr could take a 911 on a track though. there's a best motoring vid with 911, evo, gtr, m3, nsx. order of finish is evo, gtr, 911. i think it's an evo vii though.
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IMO I do think the Z looks better than a porsche boxster and porsche carrera. But the bodykit on the Turbo and GT2 are awesome and makes it alot better than the 350Z.
One thing that I can't STAND about the Porsche Turbo is that it has those overlapping exhaust tips (aka two pipes that look like the mastercard logo) but if you look into the exhaust, the pipe is in the middle of it, the overlapping tips are just for show.
One thing that I can't STAND about the Porsche Turbo is that it has those overlapping exhaust tips (aka two pipes that look like the mastercard logo) but if you look into the exhaust, the pipe is in the middle of it, the overlapping tips are just for show.
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Originally posted by eazy
The Z looks better than a porsche 911???? good one! lol
The Z looks better than a porsche 911???? good one! lol
It might be able to ourperform a Z, but I think the Z looks a lot better.
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Originally posted by jasonintoronto
the porsche is lighter and more powerful, off the start might be close for a bit (we get more torque down low), but afterwards we're toast.
the porsche is lighter and more powerful, off the start might be close for a bit (we get more torque down low), but afterwards we're toast.
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I didn't say anything about the pricetag, but since you did.......
Maybe it's the german engineering and the porsche name alone?
The Z is a notch away from the 911 in practically all areas, but the Z comes to us at less than half the price! Who can complain with that?!? The Z is as well balanced as the 911.
Don't tell me you're one of these insecure car owners who subconciously think that just because there are hotter cars out there that youre somehow lesser of a person?
I hope not
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/porsc...ork%2Fcpc%2FPI
Maybe it's the german engineering and the porsche name alone?
The Z is a notch away from the 911 in practically all areas, but the Z comes to us at less than half the price! Who can complain with that?!? The Z is as well balanced as the 911.
Don't tell me you're one of these insecure car owners who subconciously think that just because there are hotter cars out there that youre somehow lesser of a person?
I hope not
http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/porsc...ork%2Fcpc%2FPI
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I'll prolly wind up getting a 2006 911 convertible.
However, until thn I stand by my belief that the Z is one helluva car. The fact that we can *even* compare a car costing more than twice (remember porsches cost way more with the custom options) really indicates the strength and VALUE of the Z.
I started a couple threads re: comparing 911 and Zs - well, my big prob was how poor the interiors of the 996 have looked. Well, it seems that porsche is returning to their roots by blessing the 997 with a killer, high quality interior. Kudos!
However, until thn I stand by my belief that the Z is one helluva car. The fact that we can *even* compare a car costing more than twice (remember porsches cost way more with the custom options) really indicates the strength and VALUE of the Z.
I started a couple threads re: comparing 911 and Zs - well, my big prob was how poor the interiors of the 996 have looked. Well, it seems that porsche is returning to their roots by blessing the 997 with a killer, high quality interior. Kudos!
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IMO I do think the Z looks better than a porsche boxster and porsche carrera. But the bodykit on the Turbo and GT2 are awesome and makes it alot better than the 350Z.
IMO I do think the Z looks better than a porsche boxster and porsche carrera. But the bodykit on the Turbo and GT2 are awesome and makes it alot better than the 350Z.
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I'll prolly wind up getting a 2006 911 convertible.
However, until thn I stand by my belief that the Z is one helluva car. The fact that we can *even* compare a car costing more than twice (remember porsches cost way more with the custom options) really indicates the strength and VALUE of the Z.
I started a couple threads re: comparing 911 and Zs - well, my big prob was how poor the interiors of the 996 have looked. Well, it seems that porsche is returning to their roots by blessing the 997 with a killer, high quality interior. Kudos!
I'll prolly wind up getting a 2006 911 convertible.
However, until thn I stand by my belief that the Z is one helluva car. The fact that we can *even* compare a car costing more than twice (remember porsches cost way more with the custom options) really indicates the strength and VALUE of the Z.
I started a couple threads re: comparing 911 and Zs - well, my big prob was how poor the interiors of the 996 have looked. Well, it seems that porsche is returning to their roots by blessing the 997 with a killer, high quality interior. Kudos!
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Originally posted by ml2316
if you're just talking about performance you can compare lots of 30k or less cars to a 911 the same way you could a z. but the total package of styling and performance of the z is pretty much unmatched by any car except a corvette for under 50k.
if you're just talking about performance you can compare lots of 30k or less cars to a 911 the same way you could a z. but the total package of styling and performance of the z is pretty much unmatched by any car except a corvette for under 50k.
dont forget Lotus...
Its the size of a match box, but I would love to see it up against the 911, or even the vette for that matter.
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Originally posted by PhoenixINX
BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ, wrong.
Trust me, the reason we dip so agressively up top is NOT our fuel maps. GOD I WISH it were THAT easy.
BUZZZZZZZZZZZZ, wrong.
Trust me, the reason we dip so agressively up top is NOT our fuel maps. GOD I WISH it were THAT easy.
Assuming it is true, I still don't think it would bring us anywhere near 300rwhp if corrected.