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Old Jul 9, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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That about sums it up for me.

In the styling dept..... a simple evolution please.
- please do not go to clear rear lights (like Altima)
- & please loose those door handles.
We're still on the same page with your suggestions as well. The handles are a signature that needs to go. The clear lights = rice

Styling- everything I've read including the statements from the Nissan brass seem to point to evolution.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:15 AM
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You guys that actually think the 370 will weigh less than the 350 crack me up.
While I would love to see that, it's NOT going to happen. Look at how much weight the other nissans gain when they're redesigned, esp. the G37C.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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You guys that actually think the 370 will weigh less than the 350 crack me up.
While I would love to see that, it's NOT going to happen. Look at how much weight the other nissans gain when they're redesigned, esp. the G37C.
I know what you're saying... & I also will believe it when I see it.
I've yet to see where any of this speculation is coming from.

Still...
That doesn't rule it out.
1. I feel the G35 is shifting to more of a luxo market, to steal more of the Lex market...... = >weight
2. the prototype that we've seen with all the camo armor appears to me to be a slightly smaller car than the 350Z
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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You guys that actually think the 370 will weigh less than the 350 crack me up.
While I would love to see that, it's NOT going to happen. Look at how much weight the other nissans gain when they're redesigned, esp. the G37C.

Basically what we've read so far on weight etc. has been speculation. I agree the tendency with each successive generation seems to bloat the new model.

I'm in the camp that is doubtful but open minded to what might happen.

Comparing the G37C isn't really the same thing. Infiniti is clearly moving the car upmarket with improvements in materials, refinement for a more "luxurious" car to compete with BMW and Lexus. That makes a lot of sense with that brand. It also makes sense that the Z will deepen it's roots and diverge further from the G moving towards it's natural competitors (S2000, Z4M, Boxster, Cayman etc) by becoming more performance oriented. That may mean slightly smaller and less weight.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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Nissan can you please give me a turbo option and brembo's available on all models. I also would like the track model back seeing as I dont need leather.
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by g35doc
You guys that actually think the 370 will weigh less than the 350 crack me up.
While I would love to see that, it's NOT going to happen. Look at how much weight the other nissans gain when they're redesigned, esp. the G37C.
When you're done cracking up you might want to read this:
Originally Posted by Nissan Sport Magazine, Spring 2007
Perhaps the most eye-opening statement Nissan has made over the past months was...one that may have long-reaching consequences for performance enthusiasts: a weight savings mandate to suppliers. the company is now setting weight-loss targets for components. "Over the past 20 years, every model year's vehicle has become heavier and heavier—we felt we needed to stop it," said Mitsuhiko Yamash!ta, executive vice president for research, technology and engineering for NMC, in a recent interview published in Automotive News. For instance, instead of wanting just a better air conditioner, says Yamash!ta, Nissan wants a better and lighter A/C unit. Over the last 10 years, weights of new cars have gone up an average of 483 lbs. Finally, it appears, Nissan may be listening...
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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i would like to see 2 motors offered one single turbo(more expensive than NA but less than the gtr) and a NA-both with multiple trim levels etc etc etc..and within the trim levels they have a luxury class( i know it is now its the g35/37) but you can have it with all the bells and whistle(aka push button start and all your fancy stuff) both models can be equiped with a nismo package...now i already know making all these diff. trim levels and models etc etc can be expensive for nissan but i think it would work out for the best in the end...idk my 2 cents

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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
When you're done cracking up you might want to read this:


Thanks for that
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^+1

There's hope!!!
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Old Jul 10, 2007 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by g35doc
You guys that actually think the 370 will weigh less than the 350 crack me up.
While I would love to see that, it's NOT going to happen. Look at how much weight the other nissans gain when they're redesigned, esp. the G37C.
Someone bookmark this thread. I hope you get to eat your words when the next Z comes out.

This is a quote from Olivier Paturet, chief product specialist at Nissan,

“We’ve seen what Porsche is doing with the Cayman, and I would like our new car to have more power, less weight and be more driver-focused”

Yes, you might be right and Nissan might fail at this goal, but I really hope you're wrong.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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Someone bookmark this thread. I hope you get to eat your words when the next Z comes out.

This is a quote from Olivier Paturet, chief product specialist at Nissan,

“We’ve seen what Porsche is doing with the Cayman, and I would like our new car to have more power, less weight and be more driver-focused”

Yes, you might be right and Nissan might fail at this goal, but I really hope you're wrong.
Competition is a wonderful motivator
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Jspeed
Someone bookmark this thread. I hope you get to eat your words when the next Z comes out.

This is a quote from Olivier Paturet, chief product specialist at Nissan,

“We’ve seen what Porsche is doing with the Cayman, and I would like our new car to have more power, less weight and be more driver-focused”

Yes, you might be right and Nissan might fail at this goal, but I really hope you're wrong.
Another great quote. Gotta love what we're hearing so far. This car might get me out of my G.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RBull
Another great quote. Gotta love what we're hearing so far. This car might get me out of my G.
If they get it right, it'd make a great choice.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by inTgr8r
If they get it right, it'd make a great choice.
Yep, also makes for some fun while we're waiting, speculating and digging for info.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Yep, also makes for some fun while we're waiting, speculating and digging for info.
Definitely part of the fun
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by g35doc
You guys that actually think the 370 will weigh less than the 350 crack me up.
While I would love to see that, it's NOT going to happen. Look at how much weight the other nissans gain when they're redesigned, esp. the G37C.
1996 Nissan 300ZX Coupe (Base) = 3285 lbs (last year of production)
2003 Nissan 350Z Coupe (Base) = 3188 lbs (first year of production)

heaviest 300ZX Coupe was 1996 Nissan 300ZX Turbo Coupe (AT) @ 3541 lbs
heaviest 350Z Coupe was 2003-05 Nissan 350Z Touring Coupe (MT) @ 3427 lbs

looks like its not THAT impossible to put a bigger motor in a car, give it more power, and drop the weight.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 350Zenophile
When you're done cracking up you might want to read this:


This only proves that there will be less than a massive weight increase, say 75 lbs instead of 150 lbs for example
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Jspeed
Someone bookmark this thread. I hope you get to eat your words when the next Z comes out.

This is a quote from Olivier Paturet, chief product specialist at Nissan,

“We’ve seen what Porsche is doing with the Cayman, and I would like our new car to have more power, less weight and be more driver-focused”

Yes, you might be right and Nissan might fail at this goal, but I really hope you're wrong.
He says "I would like" not "for sure". Of course I want to see a lighter Z, who wouldn't. The 370 will be probably be my next car regardless. I miss not having a G coupe anymore.
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Old Jul 11, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Greedy4nismo
1996 Nissan 300ZX Coupe (Base) = 3285 lbs (last year of production)
2003 Nissan 350Z Coupe (Base) = 3188 lbs (first year of production)

heaviest 300ZX Coupe was 1996 Nissan 300ZX Turbo Coupe (AT) @ 3541 lbs
heaviest 350Z Coupe was 2003-05 Nissan 350Z Touring Coupe (MT) @ 3427 lbs

looks like its not THAT impossible to put a bigger motor in a car, give it more power, and drop the weight.
Not sure about the 300ZX but the 350/370 is platform sharing with the G, FX, etc. so it'll be much harder to keep the weight down when all the other models are gaining weight.
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Old Jul 12, 2007 | 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by g35doc
This only proves that there will be less than a massive weight increase, say 75 lbs instead of 150 lbs for example
Actually it doesn't prove anything.

I don't know why you're so busy arguing that there will be a weight increase. No one knows for sure but early indications from Nissan suggest weight reductions or at least major diet control.
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