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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by DustinZ33
I'm sorry but I didn't read the whole thread and I have a question. I just found this thread and I would like to know what the hell is up with the headlights. Why does it look like they are poking out of the car so far? Sorry again but I couldn't read the whole thread.
The wheel base is shorter.

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 05:58 PM
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From autoblog:

There have now been two sets of spy photos that have turned up showing a development mule wearing a hacked up Nissan 350Z body. At first everyone assumed it was a Nissan vehicle. However, in the background of the most recent batch of spy photos, a mystery car has been identified by our readers as one of the Lexus LF-A prototypes.

Since the photos were taken on public roads, it seems highly improbable that the LF-A would just happen to be in the same location as Nissan's latest mule. Taking a look at the Z mule in profile shows proportions pretty close to the FT-HS concept that turned up at the Detroit Auto Show. So this truncated Z is more likely a test platform for a production version of the FT-HS/Supra/whatever you want to call it that's been cleverly disguised in the clothes of another brand.

This might explain why the hatch is hacked up? Same vent location as the lexus... hmmm



But then again, prolly not.

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 07:49 PM
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Coincidence if you ask me
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by MC


i think i just debunked this one

good detective work, admin
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 10:51 PM
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ah, good point with the plates.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 03:25 AM
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why would there be a prototype lfa and a prototype 370z in the same area,...thats just wierd. I highley doubt it was a joint effort
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:28 AM
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Originally Posted by RBlover69
why would there be a prototype lfa and a prototype 370z in the same area,...thats just wierd. I highley doubt it was a joint effort
It happens all the time on the roads around the Nurbugring.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:53 AM
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Nice work MC!
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:07 AM
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im sure a nice race was insue....i know if i saw a competetor i would excite a nice challenge.Even thought the LFA is GTR pray not Z pray..lol
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:12 AM
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I still dont get it. So are they the same car because of the same license plate #?
-fred (still confused as to what that thing is)
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Flee0588
I still dont get it. So are they the same car because of the same license plate #?
-fred (still confused as to what that thing is)

No, it just proves that the car is indeed Nissan owned, and not a Toyota mule as speculated in the Autoblog article.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 08:07 AM
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IMO, the shorter wheelbase is a welcome sight, since it will most likely reduce the total body weight. The middle section behind the rear speakers is mostly dead space. We don't really need that section if the car gets shorter wheelbase. Just the rear trunk will be sufficient

Maybe we can see 3000-3100lbs, with 3.7L 330+ hp?
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Apexi350z
IMO, the shorter wheelbase is a welcome sight, since it will most likely reduce the total body weight. The middle section behind the rear speakers is mostly dead space. We don't really need that section if the car gets shorter wheelbase. Just the rear trunk will be sufficient

Maybe we can see 3000-3100lbs, with 3.7L 330+ hp?

I totally agree.

I think the z in it's current form is too large. The space directly behind the seats is almost totally wasted. Just shave off that space, remove the spare tire and it would almost double the usable trunk space while making the car smaller and lighter.

Name me one other modern day sports car that even comes with a spare tire.
(not the rx-8, corvette, bmw z4, porsche cayman, or boxster, etc).
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:28 AM
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Well I think its just the right size..im 6'6" I need the Z to be at least the current size on the inside......As for the spare tire? After a blow out 300 miles away from home I have come to appreciate the spare tire

There are many ways to keep the current size and still be light...The base Z33 is 3160lbs.....Not exactly heavy.....Imagine if they went with lighter exhaust/cats, brakes, wheels etc it would be even lighter while still being the same size. Z33 owners can get the car down close to 3000lbs without hacking up the car and removing necessary things...BTW that 3160 is with a spare tire right???Remove that 30lbs with a can of flat fix and you have around 3130 before using any lighter components...Amuse titanium exhaust would bring that number way under 3100lbs and thats just one item.....It can be done without cutting up the car and making it smaller imho...
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SnakeBitten
Well I think its just the right size..im 6'6" I need the Z to be at least the current size on the inside......As for the spare tire? After a blow out 300 miles away from home I have come to appreciate the spare tire

There are many ways to keep the current size and still be light...The base Z33 is 3160lbs.....Not exactly heavy.....Imagine if they went with lighter exhaust/cats, brakes, wheels etc it would be even lighter while still being the same size. Z33 owners can get the car down close to 3000lbs without hacking up the car and removing necessary things...BTW that 3160 is with a spare tire right???Remove that 30lbs with a can of flat fix and you have around 3130 before using any lighter components...Amuse titanium exhaust would bring that number way under 3100lbs and thats just one item.....It can be done without cutting up the car and making it smaller imho...
All of the ways to lighten the car will raise its costs and put it out of reach for the Z's normal customer base. Lighter components means lighter materials which means more money. Shortening the chassis only cost development and assembly line tooling adjustments. Base 2007 curb weight is 3,339 lbs by the way.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Seel
Great work. A picture over a picture over a picture is worth 3 thousand words.
I think it pretty clearly illustrates the shortened wheelbase. It's just two pictures b.t.w. but thanks for your contribution, the forum is a better place now that you are here.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by vaughn1576
Base 2007 curb weight is 3,339 lbs by the way.
Go actually weigh one. They come out less than 3200lbs easy. My Evo with 3/4 tank was 3190, while '06 Z Touring's were wieghing in around the 3100 mark (some under).
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by bboypuertoroc
Go actually weigh one. They come out less than 3200lbs easy. My Evo with 3/4 tank was 3190, while '06 Z Touring's were wieghing in around the 3100 mark (some under).
We all know the actual weight varies under various conditions. The guy I was qouting I'm sure was mentioning Nissan stated curb weight which is quoted high for that exact reason. If he was not, then my apologies to him on that point.
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