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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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I see the 370z is coming out but will it be able to handle the competition? there's a lot of sports cars coming out with affordable prices, style, mpg, performance, added options, weight, etc.. has anyone seen the hyundai genesis coupe? it's rwd and pushes 300 hp..Hyundai repeatedly stressed that it will be the least expensive 300 horsepower coupe on the planet.

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/18/h...odel-to-follo/ this is a link to the lighter version of the genesis
http://blogs.edmunds.com/Straightline/4505 SPEC R

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/05/06/g...engine-nearby/

Another Korean Car Company..http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/20/n...-koup-concept/
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:49 PM
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Wrong forum.
Old discussion.
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Hyundai is not a proven "player" in this arena.
The Z has been around, tried, and tested.
I really don't think you have anything to worry about.
Just look at the older Z's, and how they still hold up.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:31 PM
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http://www.autoblog.com/2008/03/18/h...odel-to-follo/
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i dont see a car that is coming out that will make the z look outdated including the new 370z. the 370z will be more powerful yes but that is what FI is for, yeah hucka baby.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:46 PM
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but when it comes to price range that is out of the league.. Hyundai is competing with Z, Rx8, G37..
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:52 PM
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trying to beat the 335i/335xi may be troublesome
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Old May 14, 2008 | 06:54 PM
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lol i kno that its goin against mercedes and other lux car. the sedan is priced under 30k with the same features.. but i think this is gonna be a big hit!
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i was researching this today. 300hp is the mark everyone seems to be aiming for. I would like to add to your list the bmw 1 series, 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, and 2009 Ford Focus RS. And thats just me being lazy and not really looking it up. Several cars seem like they will outperform the current Z or at least come really close in a straight line in the upcoming year or two. Corners i am not so sure of. Thing is, a turbo v6 for $30k or less is a really good starting point and we all know that suspension improvements are a lot cheaper than a turbo install (especially done right). Will they beat the new 370z? Well with an estimated $35k base price for the new Z, i think it may not be the best bang for the buck anymore. I have no shame driving a turbo rwd hyundai if it will take an upgrade in boost


http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6692

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6779

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Originally Posted by my05350z
i was researching this today. 300hp is the mark everyone seems to be aiming for. I would like to add to your list the bmw 1 series, 2008 Pontiac G8 GT, and 2009 Ford Focus RS. And thats just me being lazy and not really looking it up. Several cars seem like they will outperform the current Z or at least come really close in a straight line in the upcoming year or two. Corners i am not so sure of. Thing is, a turbo v6 for $30k or less is a really good starting point and we all know that suspension improvements are a lot cheaper than a turbo install (especially done right). Will they beat the new 370z? Well with an estimated $35k base price for the new Z, i think it may not be the best bang for the buck anymore. I have no shame driving a turbo rwd hyundai if it will take an upgrade in boost


http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6692

http://www.roadandtrack.com/article....rticle_id=6779

I think you may be confused - the Hyundai Coupe is not going to have a turbo V6. It'll be available in a 4-cyl turbo and a naturally aspirated V6.
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Originally Posted by Skorch
I think you may be confused - the Hyundai Coupe is not going to have a turbo V6. It'll be available in a 4-cyl turbo and a naturally aspirated V6.

Good point, my bad.
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slap one of these on your Z and its gonna be competitive for a long time.

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Originally Posted by Nexx
slap one of these on your Z and its gonna be competitive for a long time.

hah whats the hp pushing on that setup?
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Originally Posted by Nexx
slap one of these on your Z and its gonna be competitive for a long time.

WTH is that? A Japanese spec Civic Type R motor with some crazy chrome air filter?

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WTH is that? A Japanese spec Civic Type R motor with some crazy chrome air filter?

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Originally Posted by Nexx
slap one of these on your Z and its gonna be competitive for a long time.

long time and FI dont go well together.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Hella
long time and FI dont go well together.
Please don't spread this around. It's totally not true. A well designed system will last a very long time. If it was true, there wouldn't be any turbocharged engines coming out with 100,000 mile warranties (chevrolet and hyundai) and there are many examples of upgraded turbocharged engines that last very long periods of time under considerable loads. My DSM, for example has seen 21 psi for the past 40,000 miles (from 40K-80K) using a decent, conservative tune. The engine is in great condition.

Bad things can come to FI when tuned to the bleeding edge and when they do go wrong, it can get very expensive. Detonation prevention and heat management are at the heart of any good FI design.
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Damn the engine look sick..wish have the money to put this bad boy in my z...
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Old May 17, 2008 | 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by nismo*son
Never mind

This is odd... My understanding was that the V8 in the Stang is being replaced by a Turbo 6 that will make more power than the current V8.

Regardless, the Z will be a force to be reckoned with. Look what the GTR does with MUCH more weight, and lower HP to its competitors. While the Z would not have the AWD, I am sure Nissan has a trick up their sleeves....
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