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Old 08-24-2008, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by yacoub
So for $30k, you get 330hp, spend $500 for an exhaust and an intake, and put $4500 in the bank.
I'm glad to see that Nissan is sticking with a reasonable price point.

I think the errors were learned from the Z32 in the final stages.
Old 08-24-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by yacoub
So for $30k, you get 330hp, spend $500 for an exhaust and an intake, and put $4500 in the bank.
How about this one:

30k =
300HP
Nismo Intake/Exhaust: $700
Cobb Tuner (Of course, assuming they have one...which they probally will): $700

The Cobb tuner may get you about 12-15 HP. Close enough to 20 more Horses for much less than 5k!!
Old 08-25-2008, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Endgame
I would be surprised if they DID NOT break into the 4 sec range 0-60. I am guessing 4.7.
I think the same as you, the new Z should be in the high 4's for 0-60. 1/4miles should be in the low 13's, if the car has:

330hp @ 3000Lbs range.
Old 08-25-2008, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Apexi350z
I think the same as you, the new Z should be in the high 4's for 0-60. 1/4miles should be in the low 13's, if the car has:

330hp @ 3000Lbs range.
Old 08-25-2008, 08:09 AM
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Thanks for the info. I am so, so grateful I bought a 350Z. Hopefully the sales figures of the 370Z will convince Nissan they made some serious design errors and will correct them ASAP. Maybe they will even do something intelligent and listen to their customer base! Remember when Coca-Cola decided to re-invent Coke and fell flat on their face?
Old 08-25-2008, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapser
Thanks for the info. I am so, so grateful I bought a 350Z. Hopefully the sales figures of the 370Z will convince Nissan they made some serious design errors and will correct them ASAP. Maybe they will even do something intelligent and listen to their customer base! Remember when Coca-Cola decided to re-invent Coke and fell flat on their face?

WTF, 3000lbs and 330 HP doesn't appeal to you? You sir are nutz, they have been listening, but apparently, you just haven't been paying attention.
Old 08-25-2008, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by scrapser
Thanks for the info. I am so, so grateful I bought a 350Z. Hopefully the sales figures of the 370Z will convince Nissan they made some serious design errors and will correct them ASAP. Maybe they will even do something intelligent and listen to their customer base! Remember when Coca-Cola decided to re-invent Coke and fell flat on their face?
Scrapser, it's obvious from your posts that you do not like the renderings of the 370Z, which I assume you are including the one that is closest to the production Z (as confirmed by Waizzz):

I personally appreciate the art-deco styling of the 350Z, but also really like the more muscular and organic look of the 370Z. Your early impressions of the next Z are likely not going to change Nissan's mind and there are those here that have changed their song as the car has been more and more revealed. Will the next Z be revolutionary like the current? Not likely. Is it an improvement over the current Z? I'd say performance 'yes,' and visually it's your own opinion. As aggressive as the 370 looks over the 350, I'd say they are definitely going in the right direction, but I like the more aggressive look. There are always going to be people that cry foul when changes are made to something they love. Once the initial shock wears off, most will agree that the lights flow with the lines of the car and the car's visual appeal works.
Old 08-25-2008, 08:29 AM
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What makes you think this z will weigh 3000lbs????
Those of you who think this will be the second coming performance wise..... Are in for a rude awakening.
Old 08-25-2008, 08:53 AM
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Old 08-25-2008, 09:47 AM
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I think it's pretty likely that "world's first rev-matching manual" means they're going to blip the throttle when you downshift. How they're going to know that you're planning on downshifting and not upshifting seems a little strange, though.
Old 08-25-2008, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
I think it's pretty likely that "world's first rev-matching manual" means they're going to blip the throttle when you downshift. How they're going to know that you're planning on downshifting and not upshifting seems a little strange, though.
It's possible that they are planning of having the electronically controlled throttle match the revs if you blip the throttle (and not if you lift), but how it would know which gear you were going to select is what I want to know. 6th to 4th will require a bit different than 6th to 5th.
Old 08-25-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Komodo
What makes you think this z will weigh 3000lbs????
Those of you who think this will be the second coming performance wise..... Are in for a rude awakening.
I believe that's what Nissan are going for, but nothing is confirmed as yet.. So most of us are just gather pieces of information and assume it will be around 3000Lbs.
Old 08-25-2008, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue Komodo
What makes you think this z will weigh 3000lbs????
I'll try to summarize:
1. The current generation Z weighs in the 3200 lb range as confirmed by many forum members.
2. Carlos Ghosn was quoted a year or two ago saying current vehicles have gotten fat and future Nissan vehicles will focus on weight savings (paraphrasing of course).
3. Images of the 370Z testing show a sectioned and shortened chassis.
4. Numerous media outlets have confirmed Nissan's lightweight strategy and started publishing 200 lbs as the expected weight savings from this re-engineering.
5. 3200-200=3000.
Old 08-25-2008, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by saturn
I think it's pretty likely that "world's first rev-matching manual" means they're going to blip the throttle when you downshift. How they're going to know that you're planning on downshifting and not upshifting seems a little strange, though.
hmm, I do that with my right foot when downshifting. I think rev-matching will make the transmission less stress, but not sure how the car will know you are down-shifting insteading up-shifting..

things that makes you go hmmmmmmm.
Old 08-25-2008, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Apexi350z
I think the same as you, the new Z should be in the high 4's for 0-60. 1/4miles should be in the low 13's, if the car has:

330hp @ 3000Lbs range.
3.5 HR's do low 13's stock.
Old 08-25-2008, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by in.the.dark
Scrapser, it's obvious from your posts that you do not like the renderings of the 370Z, which I assume you are including the one that is closest to the production Z (as confirmed by Waizzz):

I personally appreciate the art-deco styling of the 350Z, but also really like the more muscular and organic look of the 370Z. Your early impressions of the next Z are likely not going to change Nissan's mind and there are those here that have changed their song as the car has been more and more revealed. Will the next Z be revolutionary like the current? Not likely. Is it an improvement over the current Z? I'd say performance 'yes,' and visually it's your own opinion. As aggressive as the 370 looks over the 350, I'd say they are definitely going in the right direction, but I like the more aggressive look. There are always going to be people that cry foul when changes are made to something they love. Once the initial shock wears off, most will agree that the lights flow with the lines of the car and the car's visual appeal works.
Old 08-25-2008, 11:14 AM
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Everybody has good points regarding weight. But as mentioned earlier we are just going with the info we have at this point. Once the car is officially presented to us all of the answers to our questions will come to light.
Either way I'm excited about the new Z.
Old 08-25-2008, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SargentZ
WTF, 3000lbs and 330 HP doesn't appeal to you? You sir are nutz, they have been listening, but apparently, you just haven't been paying attention.
The headlights and tail lights my friend are my main beef. Next are the fangs and small intake and lastly, they have widened the car and flared the fenders (which is great) but what good is that if they don't include wider wheels and tires. The new aggressive body will only make the 8.5" tires look even more like they came off a bicycle. The rear end rides high like a Hummer compared to comparable sports cars. I don't think anyone was pushing for these features...not from all the posts I've read showing disappointment with these new "features". The added HP is nominal. This car should have jumped to at least 350 HP or more. Now that would have been an improvement. But I'm not into peeling the rubber off my tires so it's not a big deal so much...mainly the styling which right now just doesn't cut it for me.

Newbies will love it no doubt. But then again, they're newbies so what would you expect.

In.the.dark....

That rendering is the closest thing to what I would call acceptable. The front looks fairly good even with the fangs but unfortunately the front intake will be maybe 75% as big as what that picture shows. They should have left that part of the car alone...they had it perfect. The headlights and tail lights must go. They look like hell...even on the Maxima. There's nothing on the car that suggests that shape as a design theme, so it stands out like an open wound.
Old 08-25-2008, 11:18 AM
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Forgot to add...the new headlight design seen from head-on make the car look cross-eyed in case anyone wants to know why I don't like them.
Old 08-25-2008, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Apexi350z
I think the same as you, the new Z should be in the high 4's for 0-60. 1/4miles should be in the low 13's, if the car has:

330hp @ 3000Lbs range.
An E46 M3 at 3400+lbs with 333hp and less torque does the 1/4 in low 13's and 4.7 to 60mph. I believe Ive seen 13.1 @ 107mph for the 1/4. If the new Z isnt doing better than that with that significant weight and torque advantage it has than its a waste. I believe we will see mid 4's to 60mph and high 12's @ around 110mph stock if it comes with good tires.

On the tire note it should at least come with 275-285 in the rears. I hated the 245's that came with my 05. Made the car look mis-porportioned. Especially pukeworthy when looked at it from the rear.


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