yeah, that is true. going through the process in my head, I guess it would be very simple for a program to do this.

 

I agree with everything you said, and frankly the Miata is a blast to drive although the car itself is just too cramped for my taste. You can certainly throw one around however.

The truth is that the current power is "enough" for anyone, me included...but that doesn't stop us from wanting more does it? Most of us like to mod to varying extents..partly from the enjoyment of doing it but also because we like the little performance edge it gives. Does it mean you roll down the street screaming "I've got more than you?". Of course not.. but each of us feels it each time we squeeze the pedal.

332 won't keep me from buying the car. Why would it 306 didn't? If I truly wanted more power and that was the bottom line.. I wouldn't be driving a Z to begin with. Still.. I would have thought they would up the ante a bit more than they did when moving to the 3.7.

 

Anyone else think the rev-matching manual is going to save Nissan hundreds of thousands in replacement trannies? I'm sure they'll still be people capable of breaking it, but I'm also sure 99% of the premature synchro wear out there is from people not rev-matching.

 

this is gonna take some time getting used to, im so used to blipping the throttle for a smoother downshift....now with this new innovation it i take it that it would sounds like im over reavving

 

This computerized rev-matching has some potential, but I'd expect the system to become confused during very spirited driving. Even if it doesn't rev-match until you select a gear, I'd expect uneven rev-matching if the clutch is released very fast.

And since the threads have been merged, I'll comment on HP too. Regardless of old or new HP ratings, the 370Z will be quite a bit faster than the e46 M3. As it stands now, the HR Zs are already as fast the as the e46 M3. The e92/e90 M3 is another story though as that car will be a good amount faster than the 370Z for years to come.

 

Very interesting. It'll be weird in to get used to in the beginning.

 

If you think about it, many times rev-matching occurs at the same time you're actually shifting. So if I downshift from 5th to 3rd, I'd have the necessary revs even before I shifted into third.

I really don't see how the rev-matching system will accommodate this and anticipate which gear you're going into.

 

With modern beveled syncros, the between gear shiftings before clutch release really doesn't gain much at all. It saves a little wear on the syncro itself, but its minimal.

If someone is doing it for smoother shifts, then the rev blip is too early to improve smoothness on the chassis.

 

rev matched, hmm. seems like one more thing to possibly break/cause warranty issues later on.

 

I'll keep my o3 350z. The 370z won't let you go over 110 miles per hour unless you are on a track, lol just joking.

 

I hope this is not just a gimmick...Do we really need it NO but if its implemented in a reliable way, doesnt get confused during spirited driving and doesnt have penalities if its used then Im for it... Im partial to doing it myself...I do it so often now that I dont know what ill do with myself in between stoplights.

 

I agree that the E46 M3 was fast or close to an HR 350z (I still think that on a track the Z is a bit faster... for what I have seen)

The e92 isn't so faster... it's still a fat goat that suffer of an incredible understeer, especially after few laps on a track.
It's sharp, for the first few laps.. it's really sharp.. and looks neutral to oversteering for its 420hp... but the balance is quite understeering at the limit when the front tires start overheating.

we will see... we will see.... a cayman S can catch an E92 M3 on a track and sometimes be even faster (slow technical track) if the 370z is going to match or overtake the actual cayman... that's it. is going to be faster than a E92 anywhere but straight line and really fast tracks.

 

This is like a nightmare coming true = manual rev matching.

If VDC, Traction Control, etc in many cars have buttons to turn them off, I just hope 370Z has a button to turn its rev matching off or like an option/package which I will be avoiding because I really enjoy the spiritual driving.

 

Rev matching tranny? Just another system to eliminate the driver IMO. So no need to heel-toe brake anymore with the Z eh?

 

Not necessarily. The M3 doesn't have much aftermarket headroom for the already strung out engine, but the 370Z should easily be able to tap out another 30HP with simple bolt-ons and a tune, if the G37 aftermarket is any indication.

I hate comparing stock cars versus modded cars, but I have to since there is very little to mod the M3... the mods are much less attainable for it. The M3 is making high 12s in the quarter, and I think the Z will be commonly capable of that with exhaust/cats/tune/intake... simple bolt-ons that many people would consider. I'm not talking about cracking the engine for high compression pistons, or cams, etc. I'm talking about $2000 worth of simple add-ons that are highly attainable and easily installed.

A modded 360HP Z has a very similar power-to-weight ratio as an M3. And the 400+ pound lighter Z will pay dividends on a track.

3200 pound Z with 360HP = 8.89 lbs/hp

3700 pound M3 with 414HP = 8.94 lbs/hp

8.89 > 8.94

Once again, it's all about the weight savings.

 

Still needed, especially with trail braking.

 

Hrmm... so close to the Z4M. Z4M weighs close to 3,000lbs dry and makes 290whp on average, stock.

 

Love how everyone thought it was going to be some beast, 500hp and 100000TQ at 2000lbs.

 

Did you just say 8.89 > 8.94?

I guess you're defining the > symbol as "is better than"