What does the car look like with the base 18" wheels (In every picture I have seen the car has 19" wheels)?


I'll be definately be getting the base & upgrade the diff, suspension, and wheels (light forged 18" Volks or SSR's) how I see fit .

 

I had the same thoughts at first, but i think once the package prices comes out you will see alot of people opt for the sport package. The things that really make it worth while are the brakes and the extra bracing. I believe the diff is better than the lsd offered in the 350 too.

That being said, the stock brakes are supposed to out perform the old brembo system, and the new sport brakes are supposed to be incredible.

Since i have no reason to get rid of my 350Z (it is so custom and has parts that are one off's which I helped create) i really think i am going to have to wait for a limited edition 370Z (NISMO, 40thAE, or whatever) before i get serious about getting another. I am sure whatever that ends up being, it will have some variation of the sport package. I guess that is why i am most interested in it.

 

[QUOTE=trebien;6567090]Buddy club wheels take off 8 pounds per corner, compared to what? A stock 18" (or forged RAYS 19") that hasn't even been weighed yet? The new 19" RAYS are 7 pounds lighter for the fronts and 6 pounds lighter for the rears... so you won't lose much weight, especially after upgrading tires, which will add a couple of pounds per corner. Just make sure those 18"s clear the new 14" brakes.

After looking over the specs, the seats aren't full power in the touring... just the bottoms... so good luck getting 45 pounds each, especially with the manual stock seats.

But still:

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A base model with sport package will be around 3280 pounds. You'll be around 3100 pounds, in a perfect fantasy world. For what? About 6 grand?

Track hardware is NOT light. It's actually difficult to take a car, upgrade it to track hardware, and lose weight at the same time. The bigger brakes, wheels, tires, suspension upgrades, etc... usually are heavier.
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buddy club 18x10's are 16lbs each
braille battery 15lbs
rotors 12lbs maybe
FRP buckets 9lbs each
Pulley 1lb
Titanium Strut brace 1-3 lbs
Titanium Catback 10 lbs
Titanium test pipes 8 lbs
rear spare,tools, and sub 40-70lbs
idk if an intake saves any weight

the sport 19's prolly weigh 21lbs up front and 23lbs in the rear.

i never said it would be cheap, just listing some of the things you can do.

then later on some suspension bits will be released that might be lighter than the stock components.

solid aluminum mounts throughout.

from what ive read the new Z has 4 engine mounts!?!?!?

 

Side: 2 solid
rear: 1 liquid-filled
front: 1 electronically controlled liquid-filled

 

Care to share the Sport Package pricing if you'd already know? Under $1000 or under $2000?

 

I also heard that the base brakes are better than the old brembos also (I'll probably upgrade the pads & rotors for HPDE use anyway). I'm pretty sure Nismo will be offering a clutch-type LSD soon after the car is released & I wouldnt be surprised if the existing aftermarket LSD fit in the 370z pumpkin. I have no reason to get rid of my V35 also (especially after I upgraded to the Nismo S-1 cams recently) but I want the VHR motor and an MT in a lighter body. I just wont be getting a first year model .

 

I'll keep my nismo probably one or two more years... than upgrade to another nismo... hoping that is going to be a little bit more nismo than mine.
I won't mind paying a little bit more and not having warranty on some R-tune parts (read clutch lsd, single mass flywheel and sport clutch, and so on..) because I'm going to swap those parts anyway and it's just a waste of money to me. I have a brand new vlsd sitting at home, and I sold the stock suspension as new either.
and wait a minute.. even the stock pads.. and stock brake lines.. and stock cats, Y pipe and so on

 

I have no knowledge, but with all the upgrades I'm going to guess around 3K.

If it was a 1K option, I think every car would(should) come standard with it.

 

Based on the Sport package on the G35/37, I'm going to guess between 1500 and 2000.

 

could be but are the wheels in the sport package of the G37 Rays? ALso there is a spoiler.

 

That thing in the back will remain a mystery forever if it doesn't show up on production models...LoL!

 

Dude, chill a little bit. Just cause we disagree doesn't mean I said your baby was ugly.

That's one thing about this entire forum that I find distasteful. Everybody here seems to have a trigger finger on the flame thrower and very little tolerance for an opposing view.

I guess a better word to use than "fair," since you take offense, would be consistent. A comparison of a used Cayman S and a new 370Z is, IMHO, inconsistent, rather than ethereal. What you call fair, I call inconsistent, because I say it is. I guess because you've made more posts than I, your opinion matters more. Sorry I spoke up.

That being said, it's a free country. We're all free to be as inconsistent as we choose.

As for it being YOUR money, you better hurry up and spend it before Uh-bama gets into office. I think he has a different idea on just who's money it is.

I was actually looking to spend more than in your example. Not the Veyron, mind you. Yet, in the final analysis, I realized the inconsistencies in comparing a used Porsche to a new Nissan. I was originally looking at a used loaded Cayman S for around $45K-$50K (w/nav, PASM, full leather) and having the guys at TPC in Maryland do their treatment (turbo, suspension) for a total of around $60K-$65K. Budgeting $60K-$65K, I think the choice of a used 911 (997) may prove to be a better buy.

Of course, a new loaded Cayman S (MY 2010 with direct injection) will run around $75K. By the time I add a turbo and susp. on a brand new Cayman S, I'll be into it for around $90k. and better plan on keeping it forever 'cause I'll never get any money out of it. Porsche buyers don't seem to take well to mods. Also, the Cayman doesn't seem to hold it's value the way the 911 does anyway. So, in the long run, modding a Cayman - any Porsche for that matter, is not the percentage play in terms of being able to recoup the initial expenditure without being consumed by losses.

Another element I factored in, which you haven't, is the fact that a 2006 Cayman S will be out of warranty already, or within a year, assuming no turbo is added. Of course, a turbo immediately negates any warranty. A CPO car from a Porsche dealer will add another $5K to the price, too.

Most importantly, repair bills on an out of warranty Porsche are consistently unfair, ethereal AND consuming, all at once. Take it from one who knows. Any comparison which includes a used Porsche that omits non-warranty repair bills from the equation is a financial disaster waiting to happen.

As unlikely and ethereal as it may sound, Porsches do break on occasion. Just ask my salesman at Bev Hills Porsche. His new Boxster S suffered a catastrophic engine failure under warranty, so it cost him nothing out of pocket other than a little inconvenience. That's easily a $10K-$15K bill out of warranty. Maybe Porsche will cover part of the cost as a good will gesture, maybe they won't. Welcome to the real world of Porsche ownership. We're currently on our 4th P-car (2007 Cayenne S), so I know of which I speak.

I could be totally wrong about all this, but I rarely am.

Finally, I would remind everybody that this is the 370Z forum, not the Cayman S or 350Z forum. Discussing direct (and consistent) comparisons between competing vehicles is certainly warranted and welcomed by all. The constant whining about all the things one hates about a new car few of us have even seen and NO ONE has driven yet is extremely tiresome. What kind of response should we expect if we went on the 350Z forum and started bashing that car? Or if we went on the Cayman Forum touting how the 370Z blows away the Cayman S?

I've seen the car, sat in it, taken pics, even taken a tape measure to the rear luggage compartment, just as I've done with the Cayman. I like what I see in the new Z and, provided the performance is somewhat close to the Cayman S, may end up buying one. The money I save by buying the new Z instead of a new Cayman S, which I calculate to be around $35K, will go towards an airplane - probably a Beechcraft Bonanza. Used, of course.

Now that's what I call consumption.

zed-er

"It's a curse being me; life holds no surprises." - John Winger

 

whats the electric one gonna do?

 

While I am sure the 370z is faster than the Z33 I still think Nissan did a big fail. They should have put in a minimum 350 HP to compete with the market. I think I will just wait until Nissan decides to bump up the HP on the Z. Maybe they will come out with a 4.0 Liter in a few years.

 

no.


the current HP is fine where its at. if HP is the greatest determinent of a sports car then go buy a camaro or challenger and get dusted by a car with almost 100 less HP

 

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Based on previous Nissan pricing, I'd say sport package runs at least $2000+... and NAV package the same.

In fact, this seems reasonable:

Base: $31K
Touring: $34K
Sport: +$2500
Nav: +$2200

Keep in mind, there really isn't a stripper "base" model anymore... the new "base" has more standard features.

 

From Nissan

The 2009 370Z has a starting Manufacturer’s Suggested Retail Price (MSRP)* of $29,990, providing passionate performance at an excellent value. At this price the new 370Z is about $280 less than a comparably priced 2008 350Z Enthusiast model – yet it offers more standard equipment, such as Nissan Intelligent Key, side and curtain supplemental air bags and Vehicle Dynamic Control (VDC).

 

I am sold on this car. Blue 370z here I come.
Will it be called a Z34?

 

The 07s actually do not weigh anymore than the 03-05s do.