Test drove a new 370z touring yesterday
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I test drove the 370 Touring and I have an 06 Touring as well. My sentiments match the OP's and I did punch it (scared the sales rep when I did). I know a lot of people like this car but for me it just plain sucks inside and out. I'm waiting for whatever they come up with next. I can afford to. My car is over 3.5 years old, clear title, and I still have under 20K miles on it. Looks like I bought it yesterday! Love the 350Z.
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I'm coming from an 05 DE. And I agree with the OP, during the test drive and even now the car isn't as peppy below 3k. It feels like the ECU is purposely holding the power back for a smoother ride. It's no longer jerky but its also boring to drive below 3k. That is the one thing I miss the most about my 350. But coming from a DE the 370 is MUCH quicker.
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I test drove the 370 Touring and I have an 06 Touring as well. My sentiments match the OP's and I did punch it (scared the sales rep when I did). I know a lot of people like this car but for me it just plain sucks inside and out. I'm waiting for whatever they come up with next. I can afford to. My car is over 3.5 years old, clear title, and I still have under 20K miles on it. Looks like I bought it yesterday! Love the 350Z.
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350Z: I like the simplicity and lack of clutter.
370Z: I like the materials, but dislike all the gizmos. LED fuel level. LED coolant temperature. Square information clusters stuck inside of round analog gages. Nissan went with "more stuff is better." More stuff is not better it is just more.
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I have been driving my 09 370 for a month now, used to drive a 05 touring. I can't tell you how much better in power this car has. the VVEL is insane after passing 4.5 / 5k RPM. And the butt dyno feels like nothing because they refined the suspension and interior of the car so now it feels semi durable compare as to the bumpyness of the 350Z. You don't feel the sudden pull when you step on it because they have refined it to accelerate smoothly. It's just overall such a well built car. Looks great too. bigass rotors with 19in rays eng wheels.
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1. One of the three gauges on the dash is now a dedicated clock! What a waste.
2. No longer have oil pressure...replaced with oil temperature. So your oil pressure drops (losing oil) but you don't know it until the temperature starts climbing. Almost as good as an idiot light.
3. Water temp is buried in the LCD gizmo where you also have to look for fuel level.
4. Analog speedometer is there but it does not stand out readily. I had to look for it.
5. No digital speedometer.
6. LCD thingy is on the left side of the steering column away from most of the other instruments you most often scan. Not a big deal but an annoyance to me.
7. Overall dashboard is much more vertical...made me feel like I was sitting in front of a wall. I like the slope style of the 350 interior.
The 370 is not as ergonomic nor is it all that intuitive.
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I have been driving my 09 370 for a month now, used to drive a 05 touring. I can't tell you how much better in power this car has. the VVEL is insane after passing 4.5 / 5k RPM. And the butt dyno feels like nothing because they refined the suspension and interior of the car so now it feels semi durable compare as to the bumpyness of the 350Z. You don't feel the sudden pull when you step on it because they have refined it to accelerate smoothly. It's just overall such a well built car. Looks great too. bigass rotors with 19in rays eng wheels.
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The material used in the 370 is certainly an improvement but the overall design and layout of controls is messy. Plus they did some really dumb things in my opinion.
1. One of the three gauges on the dash is now a dedicated clock! What a waste.
2. No longer have oil pressure...replaced with oil temperature. So your oil pressure drops (losing oil) but you don't know it until the temperature starts climbing. Almost as good as an idiot light.
3. Water temp is buried in the LCD gizmo where you also have to look for fuel level.
4. Analog speedometer is there but it does not stand out readily. I had to look for it.
5. No digital speedometer.
6. LCD thingy is on the left side of the steering column away from most of the other instruments you most often scan. Not a big deal but an annoyance to me.
7. Overall dashboard is much more vertical...made me feel like I was sitting in front of a wall. I like the slope style of the 350 interior.
The 370 is not as ergonomic nor is it all that intuitive.
1. One of the three gauges on the dash is now a dedicated clock! What a waste.
2. No longer have oil pressure...replaced with oil temperature. So your oil pressure drops (losing oil) but you don't know it until the temperature starts climbing. Almost as good as an idiot light.
3. Water temp is buried in the LCD gizmo where you also have to look for fuel level.
4. Analog speedometer is there but it does not stand out readily. I had to look for it.
5. No digital speedometer.
6. LCD thingy is on the left side of the steering column away from most of the other instruments you most often scan. Not a big deal but an annoyance to me.
7. Overall dashboard is much more vertical...made me feel like I was sitting in front of a wall. I like the slope style of the 350 interior.
The 370 is not as ergonomic nor is it all that intuitive.
1. I don't care for the dedicated clock either.
2. I liked the oil pressure guage too, although I like the oil temp guage as well. It would be nice to have both.
3. Water temp guages on the 350Z and the 370Z are both useless. That's one reason I use a Scangauge. That way I always have coolant temp and IAT's available to me.
4. and 5. I miss the digital speedometer from the 350Z as well as the location of the trip computer.
6. I like the larger readout of the 370Z LCD.
7. The hood sticks out more to me than the dash. The hood sits up higher in the 370Z than in the 350Z.
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Now I understand where you are coming from and I agree with most of your points about the 370Z's interior. Still the overall materials used in the 370Z are much nicer than the materials 350Z.
1. I don't care for the dedicated clock either.
2. I liked the oil pressure guage too, although I like the oil temp guage as well. It would be nice to have both.
3. Water temp guages on the 350Z and the 370Z are both useless. That's one reason I use a Scangauge. That way I always have coolant temp and IAT's available to me.
4. and 5. I miss the digital speedometer from the 350Z as well as the location of the trip computer.
6. I like the larger readout of the 370Z LCD.
7. The hood sticks out more to me than the dash. The hood sits up higher in the 370Z than in the 350Z.
1. I don't care for the dedicated clock either.
2. I liked the oil pressure guage too, although I like the oil temp guage as well. It would be nice to have both.
3. Water temp guages on the 350Z and the 370Z are both useless. That's one reason I use a Scangauge. That way I always have coolant temp and IAT's available to me.
4. and 5. I miss the digital speedometer from the 350Z as well as the location of the trip computer.
6. I like the larger readout of the 370Z LCD.
7. The hood sticks out more to me than the dash. The hood sits up higher in the 370Z than in the 350Z.
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i had a full na bolt on g35. When i give people rides in the 370z some people think that my g35 was quicker just by short test drives not revving the car to redline just crusing around spirited. The low end tourque on the DEs are very noticable at very low RPMS.. the vvel on the 370z has two phases and to be honest with you if your not taking the 370 to 7500 you cant really say anything, it picks up around 5k than at 6500 it starts pulling HARD. The power is so much smoother and its night and day in comparison in speed. The DEs are jerky and tourquey down low and it makes them "feel faster" but the truth is the 370z is superior in speed by a good amount.
I know for sure that my stock 370z was about 2-3 car lenghts faster than my g35 was with full bolt ons & tune that put down very good hp on three different dynos avg about 285 (03 de). I now have a few things done and its certainly improved.
Its refined, smoother, and just overall better. no doubt about it.
the comments and looks i get in the 370z is just as annoying as it was in my s2000 in 2001 when no one knew what the hell they were.
I dig the look a ton but thats all personal preference.. since owning the 370z I have come to like it even more.. at certain angles the car just looks so damn sexy and mean at the same time. The Touring interior on the 370z is about as much as you can ask for out of a sports car interior.
I love the damn thing.... I love the 350s and g35s too.. its sad to see so many 350z people hating on the 370z.
my bro has a 03 ppw touring 350z with rims/tint i have a pw 09 370z , both brothers rocking white Zs, I am the older bro wit the 370, kinda funny
I know for sure that my stock 370z was about 2-3 car lenghts faster than my g35 was with full bolt ons & tune that put down very good hp on three different dynos avg about 285 (03 de). I now have a few things done and its certainly improved.
Its refined, smoother, and just overall better. no doubt about it.
the comments and looks i get in the 370z is just as annoying as it was in my s2000 in 2001 when no one knew what the hell they were.
I dig the look a ton but thats all personal preference.. since owning the 370z I have come to like it even more.. at certain angles the car just looks so damn sexy and mean at the same time. The Touring interior on the 370z is about as much as you can ask for out of a sports car interior.
I love the damn thing.... I love the 350s and g35s too.. its sad to see so many 350z people hating on the 370z.
my bro has a 03 ppw touring 350z with rims/tint i have a pw 09 370z , both brothers rocking white Zs, I am the older bro wit the 370, kinda funny
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I don't get all the complaints about the power of the new Z, I test drove one a few days ago, and I must say, it feels much, much quicker than my 03. Maybe going from the DE to the VHR is more easily noticed than going from the HR. I really don't know, but to me, it's a huge difference, I want one.
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for you people complaining about not having the oil pressure gauge in the 370, its worthless. that is why they removed it. had less than 2 quarts of oil in my motor when it blew the last time. oil pressure was reading fine the entire time.
as for low end grunt, lol you are kidding yourselves if you think the DE has more torque go look at the freakin dynos. my g37s coupe has more power down low and up top then my n/a Z ever had. stop trying to hate to make yourselves feel better about your car. the 370z is superior, get over it and stop making up fantasies to make yourself feel better, lulz.
as for low end grunt, lol you are kidding yourselves if you think the DE has more torque go look at the freakin dynos. my g37s coupe has more power down low and up top then my n/a Z ever had. stop trying to hate to make yourselves feel better about your car. the 370z is superior, get over it and stop making up fantasies to make yourself feel better, lulz.
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All that being said, my biggest complaints with the C6 were always the interior (and mine was a 3LT) and the lack of feel and feedback. My C6 was a 2006 and from the first time I drove it I was not impressed with the steering. It was vague and provided little feedback compared with my 350Z. The shifter was also notchy and clunky compared to the Zs.
No question the C6 is a fast, powerful, good handling car with serious performance capabilities. I just never felt as comfortable with it as I do the Zs. I didn't enjoy driving it like I do my Zs. To me the overall driving experience is the most critical factor in whether I like a car or not.
As for the 370Z the interior materials are much nicer than the C6 and the 350Z. While the car doesn't have the horsepower and especially the torque of the C6 it's still a very quick car. And the Sport package makes it even better. I have been impressed with car straight from the factory. So far I've added Stillen sway bars and a Borla exhaust and the car is even better.
It's not an easy decision because I've been there. I always wanted a Corvette so I had to have one. Like I said before the C6 is a nice car, but it's different than the Zs. In my opinion it really boils down to what you like in a car.
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for you people complaining about not having the oil pressure gauge in the 370, its worthless. that is why they removed it. had less than 2 quarts of oil in my motor when it blew the last time. oil pressure was reading fine the entire time.
as for low end grunt, lol you are kidding yourselves if you think the DE has more torque go look at the freakin dynos. my g37s coupe has more power down low and up top then my n/a Z ever had. stop trying to hate to make yourselves feel better about your car. the 370z is superior, get over it and stop making up fantasies to make yourself feel better, lulz.
as for low end grunt, lol you are kidding yourselves if you think the DE has more torque go look at the freakin dynos. my g37s coupe has more power down low and up top then my n/a Z ever had. stop trying to hate to make yourselves feel better about your car. the 370z is superior, get over it and stop making up fantasies to make yourself feel better, lulz.
However people are entitled to their own opinion preferring their current 350z, people that are on the verge of buying one do not have any need to big up their current 350 if they have the money to get the new 370 but are put off if they aren't 100% convinced.
On paper the 370z actually has the same torque as the 03-05 DE motor, 274 lbs/ft and the more even spread of it across a larger rev range in the 370z could account for the lack of difference in "feel" low down the rev range. Both are very very nice cars
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I do agree the 370z is by far the better car in my opinion quality wise and performance wise. And I like the edition of the oil temp as opposed to pressure. My old golf vr6 had an oil temp and it was perfect for using for knowing when the engine was properly warmed up or if anything was wrong. Oil pressure will only tell you something is wrong at the last second when it is too late.
However people are entitled to their own opinion preferring their current 350z, people that are on the verge of buying one do not have any need to big up their current 350 if they have the money to get the new 370 but are put off if they aren't 100% convinced.
On paper the 370z actually has the same torque as the 03-05 DE motor, 274 lbs/ft and the more even spread of it across a larger rev range in the 370z could account for the lack of difference in "feel" low down the rev range. Both are very very nice cars
If it was me I would swap my 350 in a moment for a 370.
However people are entitled to their own opinion preferring their current 350z, people that are on the verge of buying one do not have any need to big up their current 350 if they have the money to get the new 370 but are put off if they aren't 100% convinced.
On paper the 370z actually has the same torque as the 03-05 DE motor, 274 lbs/ft and the more even spread of it across a larger rev range in the 370z could account for the lack of difference in "feel" low down the rev range. Both are very very nice cars
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lololol, you guys need to get your butt dyno's recalibrated because they arent working right.
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