The Brutal Truth about the Z35
#81
You all are begging for a Z35 like you'll be able to afford a 60k nissan 2 seater! There's no way Nissan is going to make the Z into a cost friendly car for all of you. Lmao come back to reality.
Out the door right now total cost for a brand new Z is at 40k. But you think a new improved +100 hp twin turbo Z will be less or around the same price??!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAJAJAH
Out the door right now total cost for a brand new Z is at 40k. But you think a new improved +100 hp twin turbo Z will be less or around the same price??!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAJAJAH
#82
You all are begging for a Z35 like you'll be able to afford a 60k nissan 2 seater! There's no way Nissan is going to make the Z into a cost friendly car for all of you. Lmao come back to reality.
Out the door right now total cost for a brand new Z is at 40k. But you think a new improved +100 hp twin turbo Z will be less or around the same price??!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAJAJAH
Out the door right now total cost for a brand new Z is at 40k. But you think a new improved +100 hp twin turbo Z will be less or around the same price??!! AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAJAHAJAJAH
#84
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I wonder if the product planners, engineers and designers at Nissan are as conflicted about the next Z as the members of this board are. There seem to be two main lines of thought about the next Z35:
1) Move the Z back to its roots, with a smaller RWD platform, more modest HP needs, and updated tech (including possible hybrid). Less cost, less weight.
2) Advance the Z towards a faster, more complex machine; complete with twin-turbo VR and all the latest technology available. Damn the torpedos, er...weight and expense.
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall on some of those internal discussions within Nissan? I suspect this is an open-ended conversation that is going on RIGHT NOW, as the next Z design is still a pie in the sky.
1) Move the Z back to its roots, with a smaller RWD platform, more modest HP needs, and updated tech (including possible hybrid). Less cost, less weight.
2) Advance the Z towards a faster, more complex machine; complete with twin-turbo VR and all the latest technology available. Damn the torpedos, er...weight and expense.
Wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall on some of those internal discussions within Nissan? I suspect this is an open-ended conversation that is going on RIGHT NOW, as the next Z design is still a pie in the sky.
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35th4me (12-31-2015)
#88
https://my350z.com/forum/2009-370z/6...l#post10699529
post 67, two platforms will be offered. I hope.
post 67, two platforms will be offered. I hope.
#89
S30's are cool and nostalgic, but how long will it be until you get the itch for more power? I know not everyone will have that desire, but some days the yearning for power is there regardless of handling.(not trying to start an argument, just thinking out loud). Personally, I would like to see a S30 retro, it would be awesome. Not a half assed attempt like the camaro, more like the challenger in regard to being an almost direct clone. Cars had so much more character back in the day.
#91
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If they did the S30 retro build like I fantasized about, then they shouldn't put too much extra luxuries into it. Let it be a tuner car if they can. Give it some basic goodies right of the line, ensure that it's fun to drive and has great brakes, suspension, and a bullet proof engine. Other than that, the new Z should be more than affordable for the enthusiast that wants to have a really fun car as soon as they buy it.
#92
"Ehhh, when it gets here, it gets here."
My thought exactly. Im 39 currently and I still get excited when I drive my Z.
Im my teens with a 300zx, then a 350z, now a 370z.
Not sure what type of "owner" I am to Nissan, I just want to be able to beat the car next to me, plain and simple.
Yes, most of the time I drive for the fun of having a Z.
However, I expect the Z35 to be way more powerful than the 370z...that's all I care. If not, this will be my last Z.
My thought exactly. Im 39 currently and I still get excited when I drive my Z.
Im my teens with a 300zx, then a 350z, now a 370z.
Not sure what type of "owner" I am to Nissan, I just want to be able to beat the car next to me, plain and simple.
Yes, most of the time I drive for the fun of having a Z.
However, I expect the Z35 to be way more powerful than the 370z...that's all I care. If not, this will be my last Z.
#94
"Ehhh, when it gets here, it gets here."
My thought exactly. Im 39 currently and I still get excited when I drive my Z.
Im my teens with a 300zx, then a 350z, now a 370z.
Not sure what type of "owner" I am to Nissan, I just want to be able to beat the car next to me, plain and simple.
Yes, most of the time I drive for the fun of having a Z.
However, I expect the Z35 to be way more powerful than the 370z...that's all I care. If not, this will be my last Z.
My thought exactly. Im 39 currently and I still get excited when I drive my Z.
Im my teens with a 300zx, then a 350z, now a 370z.
Not sure what type of "owner" I am to Nissan, I just want to be able to beat the car next to me, plain and simple.
Yes, most of the time I drive for the fun of having a Z.
However, I expect the Z35 to be way more powerful than the 370z...that's all I care. If not, this will be my last Z.
#95
#96
Now that they announced the new platform for infinity...it will follow suit. Look at the g series. The Z has been following that for the past 13 years.
So I am guessing we will see the VR30tt in there. 400hp twin turbo for the nismo and possibly the 350hp option as in infinity as well.
So I am guessing we will see the VR30tt in there. 400hp twin turbo for the nismo and possibly the 350hp option as in infinity as well.
#97
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Now that they announced the new platform for infinity...it will follow suit. Look at the g series. The Z has been following that for the past 13 years.
So I am guessing we will see the VR30tt in there. 400hp twin turbo for the nismo and possibly the 350hp option as in infinity as well.
So I am guessing we will see the VR30tt in there. 400hp twin turbo for the nismo and possibly the 350hp option as in infinity as well.
And, as outlined in post #1 of this thread, there's really no reason they need to rush this decision either. So, get used to the BRUTAL TRUTH and just enjoy the Z you have!
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SmoothZ (01-12-2016)
#98
So what is the Q60 400 hp supposed to compete against? Is it to be a 435 coupe competitor or is it to compete with the M4. Regardless, I think prices will have to be the same or a little less than their respective competitor. BMW is still the apex predator in this segment. I doubt Infiniti will beat them out by out pricing them. I suspect the Q60 (300 hp) will be 40-45k like an A5 and the 400 hp Q60 for 50-55k like the S5. If the current Z/Q price model is used, their is no room for a Z35 in respect to price. Z35 very doubtful to be on same platform as Q60 IMO.
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#99
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So what is the Q60 400 hp supposed to compete against? Is it to be a 435 coupe competitor or is it to compete with the M4. Regardless, I think prices will have to be the same or a little less than their respective competitor. BMW is still the apex predator in this segment. I doubt Infiniti will beat them out by out pricing them. I suspect the Q60 (300 hp) will be 40-45k like an A5 and the 400 hp Q60 for 50-55k like the S5. If the current Z/Q price model is used, their is no room for a Z35 in respect to price. Z35 very doubtful to be on same platform as Q60 IMO.
#100
Problem is....
How about Nissan developed a new twin turbo z or Infiniti G! that will definitely be able to compete with the new top model mustangs camaros and corvettes. I don't think an all new z35 is needed at the moment. Just a forced induction option from the factory would be enough lol
Rich