M3 beats GT-R and Porsche turbo in C&D comparison test
05-28-2008, 11:51 AM
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I agree with the poster on that thread who said BMW probably contributes too much money to C&D. There is no way the GT-R could possibly lose that comparison. Sorry C&D = FAIL.
05-28-2008, 11:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
LMAO!
Violin plays in background for GTR nuthuggers...
BTW-even funnier is the 12.1 @ 115mph 1/4 time. I believe most preproduction crazy #'s were obviously massaged to impress. I have yet to see a production GTR trap over 120mph.
Violin plays in background for GTR nuthuggers...
BTW-even funnier is the 12.1 @ 115mph 1/4 time. I believe most preproduction crazy #'s were obviously massaged to impress. I have yet to see a production GTR trap over 120mph.
As much as I hate the nuthugging, you're only doing the opposite
05-28-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by tranceformer95
The scan of the article is sideways and I can't read it.
Hey Blasian,
Hey Blasian,
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05-28-2008, 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by blasian
Isn't C&D the same magazine that ran an 11.6 in another article. Hell, if it runs that, who cares so much about trap speed.
As much as I hate the nuthugging, you're only doing the opposite
As much as I hate the nuthugging, you're only doing the opposite
05-28-2008, 12:02 PM
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C&D, as I recall in a comparison btwn 350Z RX-8 & Mustang the RX-8 won while the Z was deducted points for not having back seats/roomy trunk and interior.
Plus everyone @ C&D worshiped BMW.
Plus everyone @ C&D worshiped BMW.
05-28-2008, 12:05 PM
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Thank God I have a tilting monitor.
Anyways, that comparison was utter ********. The M3 should've been dead last. How are things like storage/trunk space and back seat the least bit relevant when comparing sports cars? Christ. That BS is the same reason why C&D has bashed the Z time and time again, by proclaiming the RX8 is a better car, when it failed in nearly every other comparison to the Z.
C&D makes their biases clear by openly stating that there was something wrong with their GT-R, they said another one they had tested afterward wasn't giving them the same problems. So they continued to conduct the test with a problematic car?! Journalistic horsesh*t at its best.
Anyways, that comparison was utter ********. The M3 should've been dead last. How are things like storage/trunk space and back seat the least bit relevant when comparing sports cars? Christ. That BS is the same reason why C&D has bashed the Z time and time again, by proclaiming the RX8 is a better car, when it failed in nearly every other comparison to the Z.
C&D makes their biases clear by openly stating that there was something wrong with their GT-R, they said another one they had tested afterward wasn't giving them the same problems. So they continued to conduct the test with a problematic car?! Journalistic horsesh*t at its best.
05-28-2008, 12:06 PM
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Considering the love-fest they gave the GT-R in a recent road test, I find this VERY surprising. Looking forward to getting this in issue in the mail very soon to read it. I have no problem with who they pick, as long as they clearly state why.
05-28-2008, 12:07 PM
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05-28-2008, 12:11 PM
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05-28-2008, 12:12 PM
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Basically the M3 had the worst performance overall but won overall. It seems to be one of those "let's compare high performance cars but we chose this because it has more room" type of articles
05-28-2008, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by blasian
That GT-R isn't stock.
Quote:"This is our 100% stock R35 GTR in full trim and a full tank of pump fuel - the only modification made was the addition of the Haltech ECU, the full stock exhaust is still in place
Not a bad effort for the first time this car has been driven at the track. Next up - a 10 second pass"
05-28-2008, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jehamilton_98
True, it did have a Haltech ECU.
Quote:"This is our 100% stock R35 GTR in full trim and a full tank of pump fuel - the only modification made was the addition of the Haltech ECU, the full stock exhaust is still in place
Not a bad effort for the first time this car has been driven at the track. Next up - a 10 second pass"
Quote:"This is our 100% stock R35 GTR in full trim and a full tank of pump fuel - the only modification made was the addition of the Haltech ECU, the full stock exhaust is still in place
Not a bad effort for the first time this car has been driven at the track. Next up - a 10 second pass"
05-28-2008, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by tranceformer95
Reminds me of when they tested a 3-series (before the 335 was available) against a '07 G35 sedan back in late 2006. The G35 sedan won the majority of the performance tests but the 3-series won overall.
05-28-2008, 12:15 PM
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Even if it that 11.1 time was stock (and it isn't), Car and Driver can't be expected to take that time... they have to compare the times THEY get for all the cars, on the same day, same track, same conditions.
Apples to apples, people.
Apples to apples, people.
