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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:03 PM
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Im going thru deleting post that have nothing to do with the topic at hand of my motor or the inspection report or why it failed. I ask that everyone stop coming up with reason out of left field as to why my 2nd motor failed. When there is already a professional answer k thanks
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:08 PM
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thanks i've been asking forever,finally one....good or bad your blueprint will have broken fresh ground around here.


I'm going to start a new thread (blueprint and balance). Seems inappropriate for this thread series. For all those interested and for all those interested in furthering the education of the members of this community----please refer to thread that I will start tonight (blueprint and balance).
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by r0mey
Im going thru deleting post that have nothing to do with the topic at hand of my motor or the inspection report or why it failed. I ask that everyone stop coming up with reason out of left field as to why my 2nd motor failed. When there is already a professional answer k thanks
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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:22 PM
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too bad Julian can't be here make comments on the z forum.. especially when the car in question is a z and the owner is mainly here. To say he sobotaged is a ridiculous accusation. regardless of whatever drama there was, he made helpful posts.

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i think that will make the thread really boring.
cliff notes would be a better solution , but what do I know..

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannysage
too bad Julian can't be here make comments on the z forum.. especially when the car in question is a z and the owner is mainly here. To say he sobotaged is a ridiculous accusation. regardless of whatever drama there was, he made helpful posts.

I know, but to say GTM is putting out flawed motors (as if they all are) is just as pointed
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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My motor failed and it was a GTM motor.

What p!ssed me off more than the 1000whp advertising they used to put on these sleeved motors, is that I ran mine under 600whp (525whp most of the time), put less than 10 passes down the 1/4, and when it failed at 9000 miles I was told I "wasnt normal, I abuse cars, I take it 160mph which is crazy" and "I shouldnt expect more than about 8-12K out of the sleeved motors" Why the fawk did I spend $$$ on the "BEST" parts, shop and tuning to be fed BULL$HIT when it failed? Why do shops take credit for accomplishments and point fingers when there is a failure?

Funny that wasnt advertised when they were sold to the community 2 years ago as the only option for 500whp and up RELIABLY. More on my situation later this week, I have more than just opinions....
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
I know, but to say GTM is putting out flawed motors (as if they all are) is just as pointed
ok let me point out too (since i guess you also like selective reading) that r0mey got a GTM motor, new one, and failed
(report will show more details)

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
I know, but to say GTM is putting out flawed motors (as if they all are) is just as pointed
Says the guy with GTM in his sig. It appears that r0mey's motor was flawed and it came from GTM.

Originally Posted by r0mey
Im going thru deleting post that have nothing to do with the topic at hand of my motor or the inspection report or why it failed. I ask that everyone stop coming up with reason out of left field as to why my 2nd motor failed. When there is already a professional answer k thanks
^ Thought I would bump this again since some people seem to have selective reading or have r0mey on their ignore list. Let's just all settle down and wait for the inspection report results to be posted.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sentry65
I know, but to say GTM is putting out flawed motors (as if they all are) is just as pointed
Yeah but look at the way they're handling it (or not handling it) as the case may be. I am 99% probably taking my business elsewhere for that alone. Not worth the headache or BS.

Thank goodness for teh interwebz and the wealth of instant info it provides.

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Motormouth
Kpierson is confused because Sam stated the engine was down 4qts:

Like I said, depending on who's info you are going off of, you get two distinct versions, as usual.
I wasn't "confused" I read a claim from Sam@GTM that the motor was 4 quarts low when MRC checked the oil and neither Julian nor Vino disputed it. Because it wasn't disputed, and it could potentially be a hugh factor in the failure and damage of the motor I took it as fact. I have since updated my post to show that Julian at MRC disputes this claim.

I have also posted a response to Julians response on G35driver, if you want to read it check it out on G35driver - there is no point in keeping up with the same thread on two sites when, for the most part, the same people are involved.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
My motor failed and it was a GTM motor.

What p!ssed me off more than the 1000whp advertising they used to put on these sleeved motors, is that I ran mine under 600whp (525whp most of the time), put less than 10 passes down the 1/4, and when it failed at 9000 miles I was told I "wasnt normal, I abuse cars, I take it 160mph which is crazy" and "I shouldnt expect more than about 8-12K out of the sleeved motors" Why the fawk did I spend $$$ on the "BEST" parts, shop and tuning to be fed BULL$HIT when it failed? Why do shops take credit for accomplishments and point fingers when there is a failure?

Funny that wasnt advertised when they were sold to the community 2 years ago as the only option for 500whp and up RELIABLY. More on my situation later this week, I have more than just opinions....
mph is a relationship between rpm and gearing,if you did not exceed rpm suggestions i don't see how gtm's argument holds water.
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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You dont have to tell me that...I should have written down the BS that was told to me when it all went down. "sleeves are not for street cars" was a funny one. Oh no $hit I never saw that posted until they started failing left and right. I dont know how it would hold up on the track when I drive "easy" on the street in comparison...
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:25 PM
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Everyone should wait until the report is released and Sam releases his statement, to make their judgements.

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
You dont have to tell me that...I should have written down the BS that was told to me when it all went down. "sleeves are not for street cars" was a funny one. Oh no $hit I never saw that posted until they started failing left and right. I dont know how it would hold up on the track when I drive "easy" on the street in comparison...
i was the one screaming that when gtm started pushing them as the ultimate...nobody listened.i kept posting that these overbuild's were a waste and all i got for my input was fanboy's saying stfu.i even wrote something to the effect that the guy offering advise who is not asking for your money should be listened to,but is was to no avail.then they started popping like zits

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
More on my situation later this week, I have more than just opinions....

huh? are you having problems again!?
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:37 PM
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No problems, go look at my thread I just made a new vid yesterday lol...
Old Oct 27, 2008 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alberto
More on my situation later this week, I have more than just opinions....
I'd like to hear yours...I've heard similar excuses on another motor.

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Old Oct 27, 2008 | 05:18 PM
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yeah I have to agree.

I don't know why several 160+mph runs holding high rpms for long periods of time in slower higher gears with sleeves that reduce coolant from cooling the cylinder walls while running high amounts of power would reduce the life of an engine. It just shouldn't. Especially because a lot of money was spent.

That and I really don't understand why engines for racing teams would only last a few thousand miles...They should last forever since they use the best parts, racing gas, a pro driver, and a pro race team that monitors everything.

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Originally Posted by Alberto
You dont have to tell me that...I should have written down the BS that was told to me when it all went down. "sleeves are not for street cars" was a funny one. Oh no $hit I never saw that posted until they started failing left and right. I dont know how it would hold up on the track when I drive "easy" on the street in comparison...
did they tell you something about the hks gasket?...
funny thing is that, besides the fact that sleeves arent needed for the power levels you seek, there are quite a few cars with sleeves that run no isses, that is unless they have machining issues....did they blamed darton too? did they blamed the tunning? i guess they did blamed you for it...
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Originally Posted by sentry65
yeah I have to agree.

I don't know why several 160+mph runs holding high rpms for long periods of time in slower higher gears with sleeves that reduce coolant from cooling the cylinder walls while running high amounts of power would reduce the life of an engine. It just shouldn't. Especially because a lot of money was spent.

That and I really don't understand why engines for racing teams would only last a few thousand miles...They should last forever since they use the best parts, racing gas, a pro driver, and a pro race team that monitors everything.
Hello Sam I wish you would just post instead of IM'ing your customers to do it for you.



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