damm i thought i was firsti'm in that one also though,post #168

 

I wouldn't worry about it, considering both the mods from that thread had GTM engine issues after that thread I can't imagine they would be quick on the trigger.

 

This thread is going to make many people unhappy-some of which I have a true respect for even though we havent always seen eye to eye. What Im posting will make many people/shops/nuthuggers unhappy, but that pales in comparison to the money people like me have spent on something at least 2X when one time done right would have sufficed.

 

Let's hope. I pissed off some GTM customers over there by telling them to STFU and GTFO of the thread. It's like it's F'ing role call over there for every GTM customer or fanboy from SoCal to give their 2 cents.

 

First off, I'm sorry if I was a little aggressive in my post to you in the beginning.

However, the reason this hasn't been closed is because it involves a super-moderator who is pretty well-liked on this forum.


I'm also convinced something like this was bound to happen. You can't keep sweeping dirt under the rug and expect nothing to happen. This community is wayyyyy to small for that. I guess it just took a while for it to happen to the wrong person.

 

i agree.. this was bound to happen. threads should not be closed.. the shops in question don't feel the burn until things like this are actually posted. true colors show if they actually fix the issue without pointing so many fingers.

 

I see no reason as to why anything you are saying or posting as evidence should be edited, nor should you be banned as long as TOU's are not violated.

 

MRC outsources their engine build as we can see from this fiasco.
VTR is another shop that deals with VQ builds.
Sharrif much further south than I'd like but have been looking at his SB packages.
Jeremy from PF is moving further north which is another option I'm looking at.
Headgames is based out of NJ but haven't heard of them doing any actual engine builds just heads.

If you know of any others fill me in

 

Damn I don't know how some people can sleep after pulling **** like that on people(GTM). I mean he messed up he SHOULD own up to it... Yes it will cost him some money but he gets so much business I don't think it would matter and also that would show that his shop is reliable and backs up what they sell bringing in more business. If a shop messed up on my car and then agreed to fix it I would take my car back to them because I would know they are honest. That is the problem with the big boy shops they start getting money hungry and forget about morals so they crank out as many motors, FI installs, etc. as possible and don't give two ***** what happens after it leaves there shop.

Romey I am sorry to hear that man hopefully who ever is at fault will honor their word.

Alberto that is some good information I have always learned a lot from you and hope you continue to help us all. Sorry for all your troubles also with all the money you had to fork out for GTM's mistake. This is why I respect you tho Alberto because given this whole situation you still hold back on the name calling and insults something not many on this board would do given the same situation.

 

consider these shops...
Injected Performance is in Kentucky
SP Engineering
Sound Performance

 

You didn't **** anyone off you just posted like a 16 year old, choice of words go along way and get the message across just the same.

 

MRC is doing thier own now, also there is another vendor on here that supplies VQs to shops , I forget who... was it IP?

 

MRC doesnt outsource their engines they do in house. Headgames does Heads i dont think they do motor builds

 

Most shops outsource their builds. My work was done at Function:Tuned but my motor was built by Justice Racing Engines.

Romey found another builder close to him to do the tests.

Eveyone talks about "one stop shops" but they are INCREDIBLY rare and near impossible to put together well. IMO The problem is you have guys who aren't engine builders and machinists trying to act like experts at it. Mechanics and tuners aren't engine builders and visa versa. I would rather have someone who machines and assembles motors for high HP applications day in and day out build my motor. And in the same breath Im probably not going to let them do my fabrication, installation, or tuning.

 

yes i did find another builder really reputable guy and shop. He knows his stuff. Isnt into all the internet drama they just do their job and get it done. They work on alot of cars when i went to the shop they had a 900 wheel supra they were working on and tuning a 550 wheel eclipse on a mustang dyno. Pretty nice shop they have

 

So true.

Read this thread. Do the math. Do you think some of these people are not just seeing you for what you are to them (ie. a paycheck)?

https://my350z.com/forum/forced-indu...rocharger.html

Dude just wants a safe, reliable setup without going for crazy power. George stumbles all over himself trying to convince a guy he needs a $2k+ Haltech to control a fawking $3k procharger kit, or else his car is going to stumble, stall, blow up, kill his first born, etc. A utec is simply unthinkable.

I mean honestly.. People see these responses and think "Well, this guy knows his ****, I better suck it up and show him the money". Then they see the 50 nutswingers reinforcing his point. Then there are a few trying to fight the power, but how can our rep hold up against this? It doesn't. I've been saying for a year now that I dont have any of the standard Utec issues - despite running "big" injectors and despite being tuned by some little shop out of portland, OR that is not on this site. Still, its not like my opinion will hold anywhere near as much value to people as someone who is trying to sell them something, and stands to make a profit while doing it. Reality must come into play here guys - not everyone is trying to set records or raise the bar. Some just want what works, and what they can afford without going into hoc for some shop.

Thats how stuff like mandatory sleeves, huge headstuds, extreme duty pistons happens. Because the shops will it to be so, and the masses follow them. Only when people suffer and share, do we learn the truth. We are making progress, but a lot of people have taken the hit to the wallet in the process as we all have seen.

EVERYTHING from EVERYONE with a highlighted user name on this site should be taken with a grain of salt. Are there good people among them? Certainly! There are also those who will bleed you dry. You have to use judgement! We have to share the truth. We have to stop the politics, and people MUST stop sticking up for shops just because they've had good experiences with them when their experiences with them are not relevant to the situation at hand.

 

Thanks for the kind words.

 

to me the biggest thing is the lack of admitting even the remote possibility of fault on their end to rather use the quick "blame it on someone else"...
Yes problems do happen, but you cant be so arrogant to think you cant make a mistake... blaming arias, darton, rc, evans or even hks is not the way to go. IF they are all about the customer they should just say "lets me have hate engine back and ill get it squared away"...thats it..not dance around the blame game, wasting the customers time just to try to "get back to the other shop".
And another thing is also the issue with the cams, it looks to me like an attempt to make profit in this case... not the way to go.

I dont think its "their livelihood" whats in question here, i dont doubt they can put out quality products/work, but rather the "attitude"(in particular to r0mes motor)..which is coming into light in the thread.

IMO showing that you are human, that you care for the customer more than making a buck, showing how you stand behind the products , showing how you fix the issues when you ran into problems is all better PR than pretending to be "the only ones".."the perfect ones" "its someone elses fault"

 

my name is highlighted lol and look what ive been thru

 

You should print them and put them in a frame because they may be the first you have gotten.