Factory Nothing -> Add Nav in Cubby?
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Factory Nothing -> Add Nav in Cubby?
I just got my 2004 350z roadster with factory Bose stereo without Nav.
I like the factory stereo and really just wish I could get a Nav system that fits perfectly in the upper cubby. I have read about getting a LCD, but the complications of building a computer is too much (and I do not know anyone to do this - although I am sure somewhere here in Dallas there is).
So, is there a Nav system that will fit into that upper cubby while keeping the factory without building a computer?
p.s. I like the Garmin GPS layout best (found on Kenwood)
Please let me know the exact products to get - I need all the help I can get. Thanks.
I like the factory stereo and really just wish I could get a Nav system that fits perfectly in the upper cubby. I have read about getting a LCD, but the complications of building a computer is too much (and I do not know anyone to do this - although I am sure somewhere here in Dallas there is).
So, is there a Nav system that will fit into that upper cubby while keeping the factory without building a computer?
p.s. I like the Garmin GPS layout best (found on Kenwood)
Please let me know the exact products to get - I need all the help I can get. Thanks.
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Since you have a 2004 Z, you can easily add great navigation (and a lot more if you want) using the Kenwood KOS system. The KOS solution puts a great LCD into your upper/forward cubby (where Nissan places the OEM navigation) that serves as the control (either touch-screen or handheld remote IR controller) for your entire CES (what you have now and what you add later).
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Originally Posted by Spike100
Since you have a 2004 Z, you can easily add great navigation (and a lot more if you want) using the Kenwood KOS system. The KOS solution puts a great LCD into your upper/forward cubby (where Nissan places the OEM navigation) that serves as the control (either touch-screen or handheld remote IR controller) for your entire CES (what you have now and what you add later).
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Thanks.
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Originally Posted by caudillc
I have read through many of your previous threads, but did not understand what are the exact components needs...KOS-L702? KNA-G510? KOS-V500? Are all of these needed?
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You don't need to replace anything else since the KOS Controller connects to OEM H/Us, aftermarket H/Us, extermal amps, DVD players, iPod, speakers, etc.
The Kenwood KOS advantage is you can mount a remote LCD screen (the KOS-702) in the Z's upper/forward cubby (and no, DD devices won't fit here) for best viewing, and operate your CES on this monitor via touch-screen control or use the KOS handheld IR remote control.
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Originally Posted by caudillc
Will the G510 be the Garmin interface?
Where would you install the controller and the nav unit?
Where would you install the controller and the nav unit?
Yes, the Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box has the same interface as the Garmin GVN 52 (or newer 53 model) Navigation Box. The only difference is the KNA-G510 provides touch-screen function with compatible Kenwood monitors, and the Garmin GVN 52/53 uses a handheld remote RF controller.
Additional Point: If you use the Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box with the Kenwood KOS-L702 Remote Touch-Screen Monitor and the Kenwood Controller KOS-V500 or KOS-V1000, you can control navigation (or the entire system for that matter) using either touch-screen functions (on the KOS-L702 monitor) or the handheld IR controller).
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Re:> Where would you install the controller and the nav unit?
The Kenwood KOS system is a nice fit to the Z since the car has lots of cubbys where you can mount devices.
A good spot in the Z for the Kenwood Controller KOS-V500 or KOS-V1000 is the large compartment behind the driver’s seat or in the glove box behind the passenger seat. If you make frequent changes to the KOS controller’s inputs and outputs, the glove box is more accessible making it the best choice in this scenario. If you do the installation and don’t need frequent access, the large cubby behind the driver’s seat is where you want to put the controller.
You mount the Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box in one of the upper small rear cubby slots. This is the best place since it’s an easy mount that fits perfectly, and provides easy access to the device. You need access to your KNA-G510 Navigation Box because it has an SD slot for updating application software and mapping data.
Additional Point: One great feature of the Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box is the easy and instant updates for application software and data maps. You simply go to an Internet site, download the new stuff, copy it to a SD card, insert the card into the KNA-G510, and you’re done (the device reads the card and automatically installs the new software.
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^^ Not exactly, but this thread from THEDUKE…
https://my350z.com/forum/audio-builds/261207-new-installed-ddx8019-w-lz702w-touchscreen.html
…shows a Kenwood LZ702W 7" touch-screen monitor in the upper/forward cubby. The monitor he shows is the same size/dimensions as the Kenwood KOS-L702 touch-screen monitor. So both fit the same way into the upper/forward cubby; the difference being the LZ702W 7" touch-screen monitor uses a hideaway box and the KOS-L702 touch-screen monitor connects to a KOS Controller (Controller KOS-V500 or KOS-V1000).
The hideaway box and the KOS Controller are close to the same size and fit into the larger cubby spaces behind the driver or passenger seat. You mount these as you do your Z’s external amps.
You mount the navigation box (Kenwood KNA-G510) in one of the upper cubby slots behind the driver or passenger seat.
For more information about the Kenwood KOS system, see this thread:
https://my350z.com/forum/audio-builds/330407-double-din-h-uis-multiple-monitors-and-navigation-pics-here.html
Both threads I mention here are in this section of the Forum:
MY350Z.COM Forums>Tech Area>Audio & Video>Audio Builds
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https://my350z.com/forum/audio-builds/261207-new-installed-ddx8019-w-lz702w-touchscreen.html
…shows a Kenwood LZ702W 7" touch-screen monitor in the upper/forward cubby. The monitor he shows is the same size/dimensions as the Kenwood KOS-L702 touch-screen monitor. So both fit the same way into the upper/forward cubby; the difference being the LZ702W 7" touch-screen monitor uses a hideaway box and the KOS-L702 touch-screen monitor connects to a KOS Controller (Controller KOS-V500 or KOS-V1000).
The hideaway box and the KOS Controller are close to the same size and fit into the larger cubby spaces behind the driver or passenger seat. You mount these as you do your Z’s external amps.
You mount the navigation box (Kenwood KNA-G510) in one of the upper cubby slots behind the driver or passenger seat.
For more information about the Kenwood KOS system, see this thread:
https://my350z.com/forum/audio-builds/330407-double-din-h-uis-multiple-monitors-and-navigation-pics-here.html
Both threads I mention here are in this section of the Forum:
MY350Z.COM Forums>Tech Area>Audio & Video>Audio Builds
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it doesnt look as good.
btw on an 07-08 Z, cant you just buy a flat LCD screen, take out the cubby, cut it, stick the lcd right behind it and use it like that? on second thought, thatll probably look real ugly.
btw on an 07-08 Z, cant you just buy a flat LCD screen, take out the cubby, cut it, stick the lcd right behind it and use it like that? on second thought, thatll probably look real ugly.
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Originally Posted by TurboTrey
Why not stick a $200 portable Garmin nav unit in there.
However, if you prefer a larger screen for better viewing while navigating, a 7” LCD screen is a better choice. A built-in is also more “finished.” It just depends upon your personal preference.
My example using a Kenwood KOS system is the ultimate in versatility and provides a scalable CES. That may not fit someone’s need if they only want a 7” LCD screen in the upper/forward cubby supporting only navigation.
The ultimate expansion system: Kenwood KOS System: Kenwood KOS-L702 Remote Touch-Screen Monitor and Kenwood Controller KOS-V500 or KOS-V10000
See this thread: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=330407
A less costly system that provides great navigation with a 7” LCD screen in the upper/forward cubby: Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box and Kenwood LZ-702W Monitor.
See this thread: https://my350z.com/forum/showthread.php?t=261207
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Originally Posted by TurboTrey
And the Tom Tom or portable Garmin can be had for like $150...that's the winner! If I didn't have factory nav I'd get a cheap Garmin.
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^^ Nice. That’s exactly what it’s supposed to look like. The upper/forward cubby in the Z is just a great place to put your 7” screen for optimum viewing.
3.5” or 4.3” screens in that position is puny, and the mount looks “add-on.” Of course that works for someone who wants a removable GPS, but it won’t look “stock” or provide the nice image you get with a 7” screen.
Question… Is your Pioneer H/U a single-din mount? It looks very good.
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3.5” or 4.3” screens in that position is puny, and the mount looks “add-on.” Of course that works for someone who wants a removable GPS, but it won’t look “stock” or provide the nice image you get with a 7” screen.
Question… Is your Pioneer H/U a single-din mount? It looks very good.
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^^ Really like the way your Pioneer looks.
I’m considering swapping out my 4 year-old Clarion with a different and newer single-din H/U. I prefer the single-din units since they seem to provide more and better features.
Questions… How do you rate your Pioneer? What kit did you use to mount the device?
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I’m considering swapping out my 4 year-old Clarion with a different and newer single-din H/U. I prefer the single-din units since they seem to provide more and better features.
Questions… How do you rate your Pioneer? What kit did you use to mount the device?
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I’m considering swapping out my 4 year-old Clarion with a different and newer single-din H/U. I prefer the single-din units since they seem to provide more and better features.
Questions… How do you rate your Pioneer? What kit did you use to mount the device?
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Questions… How do you rate your Pioneer? What kit did you use to mount the device?
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I have long been a fan of single din headunits, and this model fits the bill perfectly for my taste. I bought my unit from Crutchfield and they included a Metra kit.
There are some anomalies that you get used to, (the multi control ****)
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Rotary Commander: The large rotary **** on the front panel is a 7-way control that can operate about 90% of the unit's functions and features. The **** can be rotated clockwise and counterclockwise, pressed in, and tilted up, down, left, and right. This feature allows you to easily scroll through files and folders on your MP3/WMA/AAC CDs as well as a connected iPod (via the optional iPod adapter).
Another neat feature is my laptop has Bluetooth, so if I have my laptop in my car, which has 160 gigs of music, I can stream the audio through the stereo system in my car using the Pioneer as the link.
I have been an XM subscriber for years so this was a natural progression to upgrade my older model DEH-7600MP and the colors and display are very cool to look at.
This Pioneer has a bunch of eye candy, from a real time tachometer and voltmeter, and a "organic screen" that you can upload your images to radio really makes for a pretty neat radio.
The audio settings on this unit are pretty amazing; my amplifier is a JL 500/5 driving a JL 10, and JL 6 1/2" components in the doors and rear speakers and this head unit gives me a vast amount of settings to choose from.
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Time Alignment/Seat Position: The receiver has a built-in DSP (digital signal processor) with time alignment for optimum imaging. You can select the Time Alignment mode depending upon the type of vehicle: Sedan, Wagon, Mini-Van, SUV, or Custom. When custom is selected, you can enter the distance from your seat to the front left, front right, rear left, rear right, subwoofer left, and subwoofer right speakers. After the selection is made, the DSP aligns the output of each speaker so the audio reaches your ears at precisely the correct time. For best stereo image, you can also select a seat position of front left, front right, front or all.
EEQ (Easy EQ): The DEH-P9800BT is equipped with a 16-band graphic EQ with the following center frequencies: 20Hz, 31.5Hz, 50Hz, 80Hz, 125Hz, 200Hz, 315Hz, 500Hz, 800Hz, 1.25kHz, 2kHz, 3.15kHz, 5kHz, 8kHz, 12.5kHz, and 20kHz. There are 5 preset EQ settings: Powerful, Super Bass, Vocal, Natural, and Flat; plus Custom 1 and Custom 2. You can adjust the equalizer curve of the Powerful, Super Bass, Vocal, and Natural presets between -6 and +6. With Custom 1 or Custom 2, you can independently adjust the level of each band from -6 to +6.
Loudness Levels: Loudness compensates for deficiencies in the low and high frequencies at low volumes. When activated, Loudness applies +10dB @100Hz and +6.5dB at 10kHz.
BBE: BBE can reproduce sound very close to the original through phase compensation, high-frequency delay, and amplitude deviation during playback. It makes your music sound like a live performance. You can set the level of BBE from -4 to +4.
Compression and BMX Functions: Using the "COMP" (compression) and "BMX" (Bit Media eXpander) functions, you can adjust the playback quality of the CD player. Each function may be set to one of two levels or off. The "COMP" function compresses the audio signal to eliminate distortion caused by the imbalances between the loudest and softest sounds when played at high volumes. The "BMX" function controls sound reverberations to give playback a fuller sound.
High Pass Filter: If you do not want low frequency sounds to play from the speakers, you can independently turn on the High Pass Filters for the front and rear outputs (front and rear have separate crossovers). The HPF has a selectable cutoff frequency (50Hz, 63Hz, 80Hz,100Hz, 125Hz, 160Hz, or 200 Hz) and slope (-6dB, -12dB, or Pass). Only frequencies higher than those in the selected range are output through the speakers. You can also vary the output of the front and rear channels independently from 0 to -24.
Subwoofer Output: The unit has a dual RCA subwoofer output which can be turned on or off. When turned on, this output has a low-pass filter with selectable cutoff frequencies (50Hz, 63Hz, 80Hz,100Hz, 125Hz, 160Hz, or 200 Hz), phase adjustment (normal/reverse), output level (+6 to -24), and slope (-6dB, -12dB, or -18dB).
EEQ (Easy EQ): The DEH-P9800BT is equipped with a 16-band graphic EQ with the following center frequencies: 20Hz, 31.5Hz, 50Hz, 80Hz, 125Hz, 200Hz, 315Hz, 500Hz, 800Hz, 1.25kHz, 2kHz, 3.15kHz, 5kHz, 8kHz, 12.5kHz, and 20kHz. There are 5 preset EQ settings: Powerful, Super Bass, Vocal, Natural, and Flat; plus Custom 1 and Custom 2. You can adjust the equalizer curve of the Powerful, Super Bass, Vocal, and Natural presets between -6 and +6. With Custom 1 or Custom 2, you can independently adjust the level of each band from -6 to +6.
Loudness Levels: Loudness compensates for deficiencies in the low and high frequencies at low volumes. When activated, Loudness applies +10dB @100Hz and +6.5dB at 10kHz.
BBE: BBE can reproduce sound very close to the original through phase compensation, high-frequency delay, and amplitude deviation during playback. It makes your music sound like a live performance. You can set the level of BBE from -4 to +4.
Compression and BMX Functions: Using the "COMP" (compression) and "BMX" (Bit Media eXpander) functions, you can adjust the playback quality of the CD player. Each function may be set to one of two levels or off. The "COMP" function compresses the audio signal to eliminate distortion caused by the imbalances between the loudest and softest sounds when played at high volumes. The "BMX" function controls sound reverberations to give playback a fuller sound.
High Pass Filter: If you do not want low frequency sounds to play from the speakers, you can independently turn on the High Pass Filters for the front and rear outputs (front and rear have separate crossovers). The HPF has a selectable cutoff frequency (50Hz, 63Hz, 80Hz,100Hz, 125Hz, 160Hz, or 200 Hz) and slope (-6dB, -12dB, or Pass). Only frequencies higher than those in the selected range are output through the speakers. You can also vary the output of the front and rear channels independently from 0 to -24.
Subwoofer Output: The unit has a dual RCA subwoofer output which can be turned on or off. When turned on, this output has a low-pass filter with selectable cutoff frequencies (50Hz, 63Hz, 80Hz,100Hz, 125Hz, 160Hz, or 200 Hz), phase adjustment (normal/reverse), output level (+6 to -24), and slope (-6dB, -12dB, or -18dB).