ok update... have my 03 touring model Z(woot woot!) have the pioneer avh-p4000 and actually have some friends who are gonna help me do the install, this of course adds questions because alot of the things that are probably common sense aren't posted about but i am still clueless... so with that said, my previous questions have been answered but now i need to know about wiring kits and HU fitment, i used to see tons of threads about the avh-p4000 but now that i have it i cant seem to find them.... my main question is, will it just fit right into the stock HU's place? mainly talking about the front, think i've heard that you'll have to cut some plastic out from the back but thats no biggie, but i dont know if you have to buy a seperate piece to make the HU sit flush in our vehicles or if its more of a standard size so it'll just fit in, secondly i guess theres a wiring kit that you have to get... i've seen references to a metra kit... not sure if thats a specific brand or universal term, but the one thing i do know is in one thread someone said the pac wiring harness is much better for a few reasons that i now forget, do most people just got with any old generic wiring kit or should i be shopping around better wiring kits?

 

go to this exact URL:

 

all at once.

 

I have been running my Pioneer Z2 since i got the car in January and it sounds fine.... But I waited to do everything else so i could save the money and buy high end stuff all at once.... That being said do it right the fisrt time around and it will save you money in the long run.

Chris

 

thinkin thats what i'm going to do unless i end up sellin my hyundai this weekend cause i'm figuring, two subs, 2 amps, andfront speakers is gonna run me another $1000-1300 that i just dont have right now, but i'll definitely wait to do the rest of the entire system before i do anything else, thanks for the advice, and that ********* wiki definitely helped

 

This is what I would do: carefully plan your system as well as you can now, and wire it all up ahead of time. Then when you get your future items, all you need to do is plug them in.

 

Depending on how long you are waiting in between installing the HU and the rest of the stuff. If you are only waiting a week or two then no just do it all at once, but if we are talking a few months or something then I would just do the HU since it will actually eliminate some of the work later and you can enjoy something in the meantime.

 

probably going to be months... definitely not a week or two, so yea probably gonna do the HU now

how much time would it save me to have them run the wires for the subs/amps when i do the HU now? and more importantly is it even able to be pre-wired for those items? two subs, two amps? if so i'd definitely have them run the wires now, cause i could atleast afford that without maxing out the credit card

 

There is nothing wrong with doing a staged CES installation. In fact this is done for good reasons: Budget, waiting for future components, and uncertainty from the onset on the exact installation. It’s usually less costly to do all of it at one time, but that is not always possible.

KManZ provides the correct answer to your question:
You should carefully plan your CES (its components and the installation sequence) in advance. You want to discuss the plan with your installer so he understands the final goal.

It sounds as though you have already selected an aftermarket H/U. That’s fine. In fact, any decent aftermarket H/U will provide better sound and reception than the OEM Clarion or Bose H/U’s. It isn’t that Clarion or Bose make poor components (in fact both companies provide high-end devices that are exceptional), it’s just that Nissan uses the lowest-level in these companies’ product lines.

Next you need to select your external amp(s), front component speakers, rear coaxial speakers (if you even want these), and SubW. You don’t need to buy them now, but you should know what you intend to install in the future.

When you install the aftermarket H/U, you will have the center dash console and tunnel console apart, so this would be a good time to decide upon any new wiring that you need to run to the rear cubbies. Your installer can help with this. As KManZ states, you want to minimize the number of panels you need to pull when you install additional components at a later date (as your budget allows purchasing these).

I don’t know if you have decided which model Z to purchase yet, but I would point out that it much easier to do a sequential audio-build on a Z with OEM Clarion equipment than doing this on a Z with a Bose setup.

Best wishes for your audio project,

--Spike

BTW: Really like the fact that you are responsible and not willing to load-up your credit card just to get an audio-setup ASAP.

 

To be honest, since you are paying someone else to do it, it shouldn't really matter when they wire it. I was speaking from the point of view of doing it yourself. It gets tedious taking your dash and console apart to run wires for every new component. And running wires is a headache.

But there are two benefits from having them run the wire ahead of time:

1) You can put the stuff in once it arrives, vs. paying them to do it.
2) You lower the risk of breaking/ bending your panels and clips from repeated disassembly.

 

+1 on wiring ahead of time as KManZ states about disassembly of panels, its very tight in the back of the head unit so just to go through this pain in the *** once is a good thing.