seank426

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I must be missing something, or I'm just stupid. Whats the difference between the Kenwood KOS-L702 and say a DDX812 or 712. The interfaces look very similar if not the same.

Spike100

They are identical in application software, features, and “internals.” For example, they all use the same GPS internals.

The difference is the DD units (i.e., DNX-8120) are “all-in-one” devices meant to be a complete solution with a single installation, and the KOS devices are separate components designed to blend into (and not necessarily replace) your car’s existing CES.

For example, if you install the DNX-8120, you replace your car’s OEM radio. But installing a KOS system leaves the OEM equipment in place, and simply adds to what you already have. When using KOS, you can install as much or little as you want.

Please forgive me if I missed your question.

--Spike

bluezup

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lol spike you did it again. i think you might be confusing him a bit with all your words.
to make it more simple... a ddx or dnx units are your double din head unit, used to replace your factory head unit, usually with about a 7inch screen. and when holding the actually whole unit in your hand, its like holding a square rock in both hands.

the kenwood kos L702 is not a head unit that you use to replace the factory unit. its just a added lcd screen to your car for extra entainment. its a flat device, i THINK about 1 inch- 1 and half inch thick only. and a 7 inch screen. this is what some people would use to put behind thier head rest, or mount it somewhere in the front dash, like we do it in the front cubby.

Spike100

I think you are correct: “lol spike you did it again. i think you might be confusing him a bit with all your words.”

Well crap… the Kenwood KOS system isn’t an easily explained concept. I think you explain this better, but you even forget mentioning that the KOS-L702 is not functional by itself and requires connection to a KOS Controller (v1000 or v5000 Controller).

And… once you marry these two devices (KOS-L702 and a KOS Controller), you can add any number of various devices (including your car’s CES).

Oops... I probably added more confusion.

--Spike

JEKL

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Exactamundo! This is a L702: (The piece below the 3 gauges and above the OEM H/U)

seank426

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I'm planning on adding a pioneer HU but then want to fill the cubby with some sort of navi unit. Trying to figure out how much it would cost me KOS-L702, KOS Controller and everything else. Is the KOS Controller absolutely necessary? After a quick search looks like to runs about $300. Also would it beable to connect to a standard pioneer HU and if so if I had an ipod plugged into my headunit could i control is through the KOS-702 unit??? I love the layout of the interface from the looks of it.

JEKL

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The KOS controller basically is a H/U so you really dont need to (and I dont think can) connect the Pioneer to it. If you want the Pioneer in the lower part of the bezel but the Kenwood part in the upper, you should be able to go with the LZ-702W monitor and the Kenwood KNA-G510 navigation. I am pretty sure you will not be able to use the Kenwood monitor to power your ipod if it is hooked up to the Pioneer. But from what I understand you can hook up an ipod to the LZ-702W.

You probably noticed that I am not 100% positive on some of that. Maybe someone else can confirm it or not.

bluezup

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what year is your z? i just recently took out my LZ 702 and whole kenwood navi unit and head unit out my car and gonna sell them. hit me up if your interested.

seank426

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So I pretty much want to accomplish 3 things with this upgrade:

1) able to plug ipod into L702, watch video on display and listen music through speakers.
2) Add navi via purchasing KNA-GH510 unit
3) Using pioneer DEH-P980BT bluetooth via L702 display.

So If I purchased the L702 monitor along with the V500 controller would I be able to plug the L702 -> V500 -> DEH-P980BT HU? If I could do that then 1 & 2 are possible for sure, correct? Only leaves 3 to figure out. I was also thinking of possibly purchasing a different HU and then getting the Kenwood KCA-BT200 bluetooth unit for the L702 only thing Im concerned about is the quaility of it. Have heard realy realy great things about the BT built into the DEH-P980BT.

Spike100

This paradigm might be helpful.

If you go with Kenwood KOS

• Leave your OEM H/U in place (you will only be using its CD player and about nothing else).
• Install a Kenwood KOS-L702 Remote Touch-Screen Monitor in the upper/forward cubby (to operate your system).
• Install a Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box (if you want navigation)
• Install a Kenwood Controller (KOS-V500 or KOS-V1000) to connect everything else (BT, etc.)

If you want to install an aftermarket H/U

• Don’t bother with a Kenwood KOS installation, but instead pick a H/U that gives you all the features you need.
• If you want to add navigation, install a Kenwood LZ-702W Touchscreen Monitor and a Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box.

Not sure I'm answering your question.

--Spike

seank426

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Well I figure I want to fill the cuppy for sure because I hate just having it empty. I also wanted to get a single din HU because I can then put my ipod right below it where as a double din unit would take up the whole space. I also won't even see the wire then.

Spike100

If understand this, you want to install a new single-din H/U. Here’s what you do:

• Replace your OEM H/U with a single-din H/U. Mount the single-din H/U using a Metra bezel/mount and use the lower shelf for whatever (i.e., BT, iPod, etc.)
• Install a Kenwood LZ-702W Touchscreen Monitor in the upper/forward cubby to view navigation (you need a Kenwood KNA-G510 Navigation Box if you want this), DVD/movie display, and rearview camera image.

--Spike

seank426

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That would be fine but how then I would need 2 plugs, 1 from my HU and 1 from the L702 and everything I wanted to switch from video on screen to audio through speakers I would have to unplug it from one and plug it into the other which seems like it would get old very quickly. Unless there's something I'm missing or don't understand :/

Spike100

If it's A/V switching, just install a manual switch.

If it's audio switching only (for something like voice navigation interrupting the current audio device), use a sound switcher.

--Spike

seank426

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Sorry I'm new to all of this, but I have no idea what that meant :/
Actually I sorta take that back, so I would need a audio switch because I would only need to transfer the audio from the 702 display to my pioneer HU?

What is the difference between the KOS-L702 and the L702W? Do both have the same inferance and options?

UPDATE: correct me if I'm wrong but the L702 monitor requires the V500/V1000 controller for the interface while the L702W both does not use the controller and does not have the interface?

JEKL

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You are correct, the KOS-L702 needs the V500 or V1000 to operate as it is a stand alone monitor. The LZ-702W has its own external box that allows you to connect iPod, USB, etc.

In terms of where to put your iPod, dont let that play a roll in if you buy an aftermarket H/U or not. There are plenty of stealth locations to put it. You can easily feed it to the armrest for easy access or even in the glove box behind the passenger seat.

I dont fully understand the need for swithes in this situation but I personally dont want to fool with that sort of thing. That is why I went with the KOS controller because it is all operated by the touchscreen.

Spike100

^^ Good reply, and totally correct.

I use a manual switch (small switch near where the seat heater switch is positioned) because I have a composite video monitor (Power Acoustik 7" LCD) connected to a Garmin GVN52 Nav Black Box. That means I have no touch-screen function on the LCD, and use the manual switch to toggle between A/V inputs (navigation, rearview camera, etc.). I don’t want to dig for a remote when switching A/V sources.

Your Kenwood touch-screen setup is much better since it supports input from various A/V sources using the KOS touch screen.

--Spike

JEKL

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Well a very smart guy told me to go that route!

seank426

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someone suggested that I just but an all in one unit like the DDX812 and then purchase the L702 along with the navi. Sounds like a good idea and I'm leaning towards that except I wish DDX812's didn't cost $700 :/

JEKL

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Price your idea vs buying an all in one H/U that includes navigation. That might be cheaper than a H/U plus the KNA-G510. You just need to pick a head unit that will allow you to send the navigation to a separate monitor. Spike, remember that guy recently that sent his nav to the upper screen from his H/U? Something like "gadzo" maybe. What unit was he running?