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12-11-2009, 03:59 AM
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very nice man... you came back with a vengance lol. I thought my 5901 was bad ***. How much did the installer quote you?
Every installer here quote me $300-$600 for just the standard 5901 + remote start module. Lowest I found is $250 and will get it done this Sunday.
Every installer here quote me $300-$600 for just the standard 5901 + remote start module. Lowest I found is $250 and will get it done this Sunday.
12-11-2009, 04:50 AM
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Remember the alarm is only as good as the installation. Make sure your installer knows what he is doing and make sure you know what you're getting for what you are paying. The guy charging $250 (from above) may not be hooking up as many features / functions as the guy wanting $600.
12-11-2009, 06:57 AM
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The prox sensor shouldn't go in to full alarm unless something has entered the vehicle - if someone gets close to the vehicle it should just do the warn away. Prox sensors are a pain because, espeically here in the midwest, they have to be adjusted from season to season for best results.
12-11-2009, 09:44 AM
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Remember the alarm is only as good as the installation. Make sure your installer knows what he is doing and make sure you know what you're getting for what you are paying. The guy charging $250 (from above) may not be hooking up as many features / functions as the guy wanting $600.
12-12-2009, 09:24 PM
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^ LOL I love that video!
ICE - I'm having a mastertech at CarToys [15+ years experience] to do it for cash. He knows and have done 3-4 cars for my friend. He's doing all the work for $250 cash. I think it's pretty much a steal! The best quote I got was $525 from a good private shop. CarToys quoted over $600! I think it's not bad, I'm basically saving a ton on the alarm/accessories and then the install too.
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ICE - I'm having a mastertech at CarToys [15+ years experience] to do it for cash. He knows and have done 3-4 cars for my friend. He's doing all the work for $250 cash. I think it's pretty much a steal! The best quote I got was $525 from a good private shop. CarToys quoted over $600! I think it's not bad, I'm basically saving a ton on the alarm/accessories and then the install too.
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12-17-2009, 01:27 PM
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Paid $500 shipped total for everything including the piece i found out I needed [which I ended up buying at CarTOYS due to needing it right away) which is the 556u for bypassing the ignition chip. You can either get this piece for $30 or the FLCAN for $70. The FLCAN eliminates the need for your key. The 556u does the same thing, but you give up one of your key. You must ask the installer to grind down the key so that it can no longer function as a key so thieves can't just take the key from the box and use it.
I got HOOKED UP on the install so I only paid $250 cash and the tech has 15+ years of experience. Everything was hooked up last night. I'm writing a review as we speak.
I got HOOKED UP on the install so I only paid $250 cash and the tech has 15+ years of experience. Everything was hooked up last night. I'm writing a review as we speak.
12-17-2009, 01:43 PM
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I always get a kick out of the "grinding down the key" comments. It's totally pointless - the 556U NEEDS to be installed in a place that isn't accessible to a thief. If the thief finds the box and gets the key out the only real thing they need is the transponder chip. Ground down or not they can hold the key up to the ignition cylinder and hotwire the car (and you just made it REALLY easy for them by installing a remote start that uses standard colors for crank, ign, and acc!). At that point they have two options, brute force to break the steering wheel lock or drill it out from underneath. By grinding down the key you basically make the thief work for an extra 45 seconds to steal your car!
12-18-2009, 01:49 AM
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Honestly, if they want the car THAT bad, I'm sure they'll figure out a way to get it. As I've said before, this is a deterrence. I honestly don't think that ANY alarm system can prevent a thief that wants the car bad enough. If they can bypass all my sensors, I'm sure they got a flatbed ready to take the car anyways. I think if anyone wants to fork over the $70 for the FLCAN, they should. I just know I trust my installer and I like where he put the 556U. I'm pretty damn sure the only way anyone is going to find it is by having an hour tearing up the car. Plus, the grinding key down part is just for extra precautions for someone getting the 556U. I didn't opt for the FLCAN - they didn't have it in stock at the local cartoys and I was already waiting for 2 weeks and scheduling with my installer was tough.
12-18-2009, 12:20 PM
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The FLCan isn't necessarily any more secure - it can replicate the transponder code IF accessed. My point was not to expose a security flaw, but to stress that ANY bypass module needs to be hidden and unaccessible from the bottom of the dash. If this is done then grinding the key only ruins your key if you ever take the system out. I have a 556U in my G35 with an unground key and I have no hesitations publically saying that because I know that it won't be used to steal my car (sounds like your case, too). In my years of installing you would be amazed at how many "alarms" you could see by just sticking your head up under the dash!
The other side of the coin, though, is that hotwiring cars to steal them doesn't really exist anymore. The tranponder systems have forced thieves to use methods of stealing cars that doesn't involve driving them away! I have never heard of thieves targeting cars with remote starts on them and exploiting the remote start to steal the car.
The other side of the coin, though, is that hotwiring cars to steal them doesn't really exist anymore. The tranponder systems have forced thieves to use methods of stealing cars that doesn't involve driving them away! I have never heard of thieves targeting cars with remote starts on them and exploiting the remote start to steal the car.
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