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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 05:51 AM
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So I had the Alpine IVA-NAV-1 installed and it works great but I'm not too happy about it not sitting flush. Installer said that its just like that just looking for a second or 10th opinion on this.



https://my350z.com/forum/members/146...2683-dash.html

Sorry if its hard to tell but it sits about half inch out..

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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 07:09 AM
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thanks for the response bigaudio.

Ill get used to it and it eventually. didn't not even bothered me until I walked by a Z this morning and noticed his DD sitting flush.. looked nice.. lol
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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 10:15 AM
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Yeah, maybe it is the brand. I've never seen this brand before, (I don't get around other people's stereos much). However, I know for a fact that Kenwood DD's fit perfect, i.e. flush. I love mine BTW. DDX-814. See if someone else has the same one and it sits the same. But as the responder above said, that's probably as good as it gets.

Here's how a recent Kenwood sits with no mods, (just factory install):

https://my350z.com/forum/members/633...-finisher.html

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Old Jul 25, 2010 | 08:42 PM
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In order to flush mount any Double Din monitor you have to redrill new holes in the factory brackets. This has been discussed many times. I believe one thread even shows how it looks after you drill the new holes on the brackets.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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The problem is if it's a removeable face and you run it flush the removable face is no longer removable. This is why many removeable face units do not sit as flush as the ones that don't.
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Old Jul 26, 2010 | 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by uglyduc
The problem is if it's a removeable face and you run it flush the removable face is no longer removable. This is why many removeable face units do not sit as flush as the ones that don't.
My H/U is flush, and its rotating faceplate is removable.

As the THEDUKE mentions, accomplishing a “flush mount” requires extra effort (you need to drill new holes in the factory mounting bracket just a little farther back behind the stock holes).

I don’t have much experience with Alpine H/U’s, but you can certainly mount a Kenwood H/U that sits “flush” inside the Z’s stock slot.

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Old Jul 27, 2010 | 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Spike100

As the THEDUKE mentions, accomplishing a “flush mount” requires extra effort (you need to drill new holes in the factory mounting bracket just a little farther back behind the stock holes).


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This wouldn't work in my case. The face on my JVC will not open if it's "flush".
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Old Jul 28, 2010 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by uglyduc
This wouldn't work in my case. The face on my JVC will not open if it's "flush".
Hence the term "uglyduc[kling]."

I’m only kidding… messing with you a little to add some humor to the thread.

But, good to know that at least one JVC headunit does not support a flush mount in the Z. Thank you for the info.

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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 01:09 PM
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I'd like to clarify something. My stock (as per Kenwood factory) DDX-814 does not fit "flush". Which is to mean totally flat with center console as does the stock unit. But, it sticks out a little as mentioned above because the screen does mechanically move out to allow DVD's to be inserted into the unit. However, it does not stick out that massively as does the OP's Alpine unit. To me, the Kenwood looks factory as if this is what Nissan should have put in the car.



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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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Nice, I like how that Kenwood fits. My JVC sticks out about 1/8 " bit more than that. I consider flush, 100% flush. I don't see how that can be done with a motorized removeable face.

Spike, you gotta work on your jokes bro.. keep your day job.
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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by uglyduc
Nice, I like how that Kenwood fits. My JVC sticks out about 1/8 " bit more than that. I consider flush, 100% flush. I don't see how that can be done with a motorized removeable face.

Spike, you gotta work on your jokes bro.. keep your day job.
I agree. It wasn't a very good attempt.

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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 05:13 PM
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I think we are arguing over semantics. We should probably agree first on a definition of “flush.”

My understanding of “flush” is this: The H/U should be mounted so that its unfinished sides, top, and bottom are within the trim/mounting bezel. The finished front edge of the H/U should protrude to allow operation of a motorized/rotating faceplate or a removable faceplate (if the H/U has this feature).

I think that was the point made early in this thread by bigaudiofanatic:
Originally Posted by bigaudiofanatic
The dd that have motorized screens have to have some extra room so yes that is how it is. You could take it out and drill new holes in the metal brackets a small bit towards the back so it will sit in more other than that its how they are, even pioneers and kenwoods. But personally I would stick with the alpine anyway.
I’ll take the liberty of elaborating on bigaudiofanatic’s comment. If you mount a H/U with a motorized/rotating faceplate or a removable faceplate, that faceplate will likely have a rounded and finished corners that are meant to allow rotation and removal. In other words the H/U is designed so that the finished faceplate protrudes slightly.

In fact if you attempt to “flush-up” the faceplate on this type of H/U, you end up with a recessed device that looks “butt ugly,” may not operate correctly (the rotating faceplate might hang-up on the bezel), and removing a removable faceplate may be difficult; because you violate the manufacturer’s design and intention.

As another example, here is a picture of my mount for a single-din Clarion that has a motorized/rotating/removable faceplate.



Notice that the faceplate has rounded corners allowing rotation and easy removal. If I mounted this with the front of the faceplate flush with the bezel, it would actually be recessed, look awful, and the motorized-rotation feature would not be enabled.

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Old Jul 29, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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Totally agree... rounded faceplate mounted flush = poo
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