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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 09:15 AM
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So, now that I've moved onto r-comps, my pad wear has increased dramatically. I'm currently using Cobalt Spec VR up front and Cobalt GT-Sport in the rear. I must say that I'm very happy with the Spec VR's for the 355mm stoptech front kit. Those pads have lasted about 14 track days, 4 of which were on r-comps, and I'm only 1/2 way through them. I expect to get at least 4 more track days out of them.

As you all know, the rears are a different story. The GT-Sport were down to the backing plates after 4 track days. Wear was definitely not linear as I had more then half of the pad left on the second full weekend or driving. I thought I had enough for the full weekend, but that wasn't the case.

I decided to try out the Raybestos ST-41 (f) and ST-43 (r). The ST-43 has decent feedback from members of this forum for the non-brembo rear application. But after opening the box of brake pads, and seeing the invoice again, I felt a bit ill...

That rear stoptech kit is starting to look like a bargain.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Yeah, the faster you go the more it costs. I upgraded the rears early on due to pad longevity. With the Spec VR's on the 328 Stoptech rears, I can use the pads for a season easily.

The fronts are a different story though for me. Currently I can go through a set of front pads in 2-3 HPDE's on a brake intensive course. I am still NA, I have added front brake ducts and I use R-compound tires. Consequently I ordered up the new 6 piston Stoptech direct replacements for the ST-40 caliper. They are back ordered, but I am hoping for 4-6 HPDE's off of them. The kicker is that the pads are like $400-$500 for a set of fronts only.

My advice is to definetly upgrade to the 328mm Stoptech rears, they have tremendous pad life and don't get as hot as the stock rears.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Yeah, the faster you go the more it costs. I upgraded the rears early on due to pad longevity. With the Spec VR's on the 328 Stoptech rears, I can use the pads for a season easily.
That really good to hear. I'm going to see how long these Raybestos last in the rear. If I can get 8 days on the rears, I'll keep on using the non-brembo rears. Any less, it's hello stoptech.

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Currently I can go through a set of front pads in 2-3 HPDE's on a brake intensive course. I am still NA, I have added front brake ducts and I use R-compound tires. Consequently I ordered up the new 6 piston Stoptech direct replacements for the ST-40 caliper. They are back ordered, but I am hoping for 4-6 HPDE's off of them. The kicker is that the pads are like $400-$500 for a set of fronts only.
Your rate of pad wear is just unreal for Spec VR's. I imagine this is with the 332 stoptech? Seems like you are the perfect candidate for the 6 piston and larger rotors.

$400-$500 for fronts?!?!? The Lotus Exige is starting to look like a bargain.
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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dnguyent
So, now that I've moved onto r-comps, my pad wear has increased dramatically. I'm currently using Cobalt Spec VR up front and Cobalt GT-Sport in the rear. I must say that I'm very happy with the Spec VR's for the 355mm stoptech front kit. Those pads have lasted about 14 track days, 4 of which were on r-comps, and I'm only 1/2 way through them. I expect to get at least 4 more track days out of them.

As you all know, the rears are a different story. The GT-Sport were down to the backing plates after 4 track days. Wear was definitely not linear as I had more then half of the pad left on the second full weekend or driving. I thought I had enough for the full weekend, but that wasn't the case.

I decided to try out the Raybestos ST-41 (f) and ST-43 (r). The ST-43 has decent feedback from members of this forum for the non-brembo rear application. But after opening the box of brake pads, and seeing the invoice again, I felt a bit ill...

That rear stoptech kit is starting to look like a bargain.
When you get 20 days out of the front AND rear Raybestos, they will seem like a bargain.
Let us know how you like the st41's. I am on my second set of 43's now and can not imagine getting a pad with any more bite like your 41's have. Be careful the first time you lay into those brakes.

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Old Jul 21, 2006 | 03:12 PM
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Your rate of pad wear is just unreal for Spec VR's.
I agree, I put in decent lap times so it can't be all driver related (= overstopping for turns). The pedal layout sometimes makes it difficult to heal/toe since the brake goes down further than the gas pedal. At times it can make you push the gas a little with the brakes. To be fair I do get at least 2 hours with four 30 minute sessions at most HPDE's and I did not put in the ducting until this year. Although, I also just made the upgrade to R-compounds this year as well. To answer your other question, I am running the 332 13" kit.

I decided to try out the Raybestos ST-41 (f) and ST-43 (r)
Yes, let us know how you like them. I went a different route and upgraded to the Performance Friction 01's for the front (haven't used them yet). I am hoping for better wear.
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