Opinions on Avon Tech R-A tires please
Does anyone have experience with these?
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....4x032&code=yes
I am looking for a set of 275/40/17 for my 06 350Z to use for track days and autocross.
Thanks!
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....4x032&code=yes
I am looking for a set of 275/40/17 for my 06 350Z to use for track days and autocross.
Thanks!
I've got a set sitting in the garage waiting to be used. They're pretty heavy compared to hoosiers, but I don't have an unmounted Toyo Ra-1 to compare it to. For $149 on closeout they look like a good deal to me.
I know the El Guapo (tt.net open tracker for all you others) likes them. $149/tire really can't be beat if they mildly compare to the Hoosier. Is there a revision coming out?
Edit: If they are good for both track and autox, they will not be the best at either. The Kumho Victoracer falls into this category. It's a decent track tire and an ok autox tire, but does not compare to a dedicated autox (V710) AND dedicated open track tire (Hoosier R3-series, etc).
Edit: If they are good for both track and autox, they will not be the best at either. The Kumho Victoracer falls into this category. It's a decent track tire and an ok autox tire, but does not compare to a dedicated autox (V710) AND dedicated open track tire (Hoosier R3-series, etc).
Last edited by scotts300; Jul 2, 2007 at 08:39 AM.
How did I miss the point? Should we close down the forum now that we have your one response? Surely, there's others who have used this Unicorn-like tire.
Edit- my bad it's not even technically your response. Currently, it's 3rd-hand inforamtion at very best, regarding a different car altogether.
Okay, again, anyone?
Edit- my bad it's not even technically your response. Currently, it's 3rd-hand inforamtion at very best, regarding a different car altogether.
Okay, again, anyone?
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Another data point from a different car (a Spec Miata). I picked up a used set for a two day event at VIR. I put 500 miles on them over two days and I was impressed with the wear. I've got one tire that is pretty worn but through proper tire placement I am sure I can get another day or two out of them.
I thought they were slower than the Toyos but not by much. Turn in was a bit soft but once the car set there was plenty of grip. I did one session of over an hour and turned my fastest lap about 50 minutes into the session.
I wouldn't buy them to race on but I would definately jump on a well priced set for HPDE events either for my SM or for my Z.
Hope it helps..
I thought they were slower than the Toyos but not by much. Turn in was a bit soft but once the car set there was plenty of grip. I did one session of over an hour and turned my fastest lap about 50 minutes into the session.
I wouldn't buy them to race on but I would definately jump on a well priced set for HPDE events either for my SM or for my Z.
Hope it helps..
I just sold a set in that size. As Gary just stated, would not use them for racing, but would be great for a track day.
On my Factory Five Cobra they were just too hard. Made a four second difference at cmp on the same day compared to well used 710's. The 710's I had bought last august and were near the end of their life with multiple races on them.
For the price and track days I don't think you can go wrong.
Cheers,
Mike
On my Factory Five Cobra they were just too hard. Made a four second difference at cmp on the same day compared to well used 710's. The 710's I had bought last august and were near the end of their life with multiple races on them.
For the price and track days I don't think you can go wrong.
Cheers,
Mike
Originally Posted by mpowers
I just sold a set in that size. As Gary just stated, would not use them for racing, but would be great for a track day.
On my Factory Five Cobra they were just too hard. Made a four second difference at cmp on the same day compared to well used 710's. The 710's I had bought last august and were near the end of their life with multiple races on them.
For the price and track days I don't think you can go wrong.
Cheers,
Mike
On my Factory Five Cobra they were just too hard. Made a four second difference at cmp on the same day compared to well used 710's. The 710's I had bought last august and were near the end of their life with multiple races on them.
For the price and track days I don't think you can go wrong.
Cheers,
Mike
Originally Posted by Fluid1
So you're saying the worn 710's were better than the Avon's?
My advice, if you want cheap r-comps, look at the C5 and C7 Hankook Z214's. The C7 is the stickiest compound and many top autocross drivers are finding them to be competitive with the A6 and V710 -- with the durability of the V710. The C5 is the medium grip compound and good for both autocross and track days.
Personally, I run C51 245/40/17 Z214's for regional autocross events on my '06 WRX. From my experience, the Avons didn't feel much grippier than a similarly sized Victoracer...
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One of my ITA competitors was running the Avons and his feedback was much the same as on this thread. Good, but not exceptional traction. Heavy when compared with other R-compounds on the market. Durability was a strong suit and price is certainly reasonable.
So, for my money, the Avons would be a good track day tire value. But, if you're looking for a competitive, state-of-the-art R-compound tire, keep looking...
So, for my money, the Avons would be a good track day tire value. But, if you're looking for a competitive, state-of-the-art R-compound tire, keep looking...
Originally Posted by Chiketkd
Avon's aren't the best pure & simple.
My advice, if you want cheap r-comps, look at the C5 and C7 Hankook Z214's. The C7 is the stickiest compound and many top autocross drivers are finding them to be competitive with the A6 and V710 -- with the durability of the V710. The C5 is the medium grip compound and good for both autocross and track days.
Personally, I run C51 245/40/17 Z214's for regional autocross events on my '06 WRX. From my experience, the Avons didn't feel much grippier than a similarly sized Victoracer...
My advice, if you want cheap r-comps, look at the C5 and C7 Hankook Z214's. The C7 is the stickiest compound and many top autocross drivers are finding them to be competitive with the A6 and V710 -- with the durability of the V710. The C5 is the medium grip compound and good for both autocross and track days.
Personally, I run C51 245/40/17 Z214's for regional autocross events on my '06 WRX. From my experience, the Avons didn't feel much grippier than a similarly sized Victoracer...

Well no kidding......
I run 275/4-/17 710's, personally.
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