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Old May 15, 2008 | 07:17 AM
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I am thinking about DS3000 if I can survive with those for a couple days before the track event put those on, drive to work a few days and then track event weekend then take them off a few days later.
Unless Ferodo has changed that DS3000 compound, I cannot recommend you do that. They (at least in the past) have been extremely rotor aggressive particularly at low (read: street) temperatures. Ferodo used to state explicitly in their literature in bold letter to never drive them on the street. The dust is not friendly to the wheels either.

Maybe CR6s from me ?

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Old May 15, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by MaddMatt
Unless Ferodo has changed that DS3000 compound, I cannot recommend you do that. They (at least in the past) have been extremely rotor aggressive particularly at low (read: street) temperatures. Ferodo used to state explicitly in their literature in bold letter to never drive them on the street. The dust is not friendly to the wheels either.

Maybe CR6s from me ?

I met MaddMatt briefly at VIR during the SCCA double national race, greaty guy and seems to be a good product. I know one of the guys that personally tried his stuff in actual race conditions and didn't have one bad thing to say about them. I can't get him to make me pads or i would try them to, but may be worth a shot!

edit: oh and the guy won the race in T-2.

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Old May 15, 2008 | 12:05 PM
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edit: oh and the guy one the race in T-2.
Marty's a helluva nice guy. He ran on PR1 compound on Sunday. He had PFCs on for the Saturday race and had a fade issue late. He really was kicking himself because he had PR1s on before that in qualifying and thought they were great!

Tried to get Rob to try a set. No dice....
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Old May 15, 2008 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by MaddMatt
Marty's a helluva nice guy. He ran on PR1 compound on Sunday. He had PFCs on for the Saturday race and had a fade issue late. He really was kicking himself because he had PR1s on before that in qualifying and thought they were great!

Tried to get Rob to try a set. No dice....
i think Rob is pretty tightly tied into Carbotech.
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Old May 16, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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Well, that may be. But what I've been told by several front runners is, if there's a better product, they WILL run it for the big races (Runoffs). Free pads are nice, but if there's .2 second out there and it cost $200 to get it, they're going to get it. I know of one individual with a car 100% slathered in Hankook decals who ran Hoosiers for the runoffs a few yers ago. They were 1 second quicker. Just sayin'...

We'll see. A 944 Cup guy removed XP12s from his 944, put PR1s on, and took 100ft off his braking zone for turn 1 at Summit. He went from a 5th-6th place car to winning the first race he ran with our pads. Not too shabby...
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Old May 16, 2008 | 05:54 AM
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Decisions, decisions. Hehe. Thanks Matt, I think your pads might be slightly over my budget though since I need to get some brake lines too.

Still thinking about it though.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by MaddMatt
Well, that may be. But what I've been told by several front runners is, if there's a better product, they WILL run it for the big races (Runoffs). Free pads are nice, but if there's .2 second out there and it cost $200 to get it, they're going to get it. I know of one individual with a car 100% slathered in Hankook decals who ran Hoosiers for the runoffs a few yers ago. They were 1 second quicker. Just sayin'...

We'll see. A 944 Cup guy removed XP12s from his 944, put PR1s on, and took 100ft off his braking zone for turn 1 at Summit. He went from a 5th-6th place car to winning the first race he ran with our pads. Not too shabby...

Hi Matt,

I put my BHP's to the test at Shanandoah Circuit this weekend. It's alot of fun out braking Miata's and a Elise, even with a passenger in my car. Even a super charged Miata on 275 RA1's got passed by a daily driven Z!
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Old May 19, 2008 | 06:33 AM
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Aftermarket Raybestos have turned out to be GREAT (talking 'bout pads here); NO black dust, either!!! $68 for the front pads; $62 for the rear ones.
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Old May 19, 2008 | 06:57 AM
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There are quite a few good options out there for pads for the Brembos. On the front of our T2 350Z, we use Carbotech XP16s and we use Carbotech XP10s on the rear. I have been very satisfied with their stopping power, durability and rotor friendliness.

No matter which pads you choose, if you drive your car on the street daily I would suggest that you buy a full set of rotors for the track for use with your track pads only. Sometimes the compounds of different pads are not compatible and you can experience increased stopping distances as a result.
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Old May 20, 2008 | 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Axelerate
Hi Matt,

I put my BHP's to the test at Shanandoah Circuit this weekend. It's alot of fun out braking Miata's and a Elise, even with a passenger in my car. Even a super charged Miata on 275 RA1's got passed by a daily driven Z!
Weren't you using ST-41s previously?
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Old May 21, 2008 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by MaddMatt
Weren't you using ST-41s previously?

Yep!
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Old May 21, 2008 | 07:22 AM
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How do the 2 compare? I've never run any Raybestos compounds, so I'm curious.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 05:25 PM
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There pretty similar, except for the initial bite, like you said they would be.

The BHP's make a much better street pad! They stop very well cold and are pretty quite also.
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Old May 22, 2008 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Axelerate
There pretty similar, except for the initial bite, like you said they would be.

The BHP's make a much better street pad! They stop very well cold and are pretty quite also.

This would be the CR6 compound? Does this mean that the BHPs are suitable as a dual purpose pad?

Thanks,
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Old May 23, 2008 | 02:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Zoom750
This would be the CR6 compound? Does this mean that the BHPs are suitable as a dual purpose pad?

Thanks,
Steven

No, the PR1's. Since I drive my car to the track, I drive on my race pads on the way to the track.

I would not use them as a street pad, I was messing with Matt a little. I'm a firm believer in race pads for the track and I wouldn't mess with anything dual purpose, especially with R compunds.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:28 AM
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Yeah, I wouldn't use PR1 as a multi-purpose pad.

I do, however, use CR6 for a bunch of things.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 03:42 PM
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Carbon - YGPM

RE: running DS3000s on the street, I'd avoid that. They will stop FINE, but you'll heat-cycle them a ton and likely cause cracking or another form of premature failure. Heh, ask me how I know... delaminated front HT10s don't do a good job of hauling the car down from 135 into T1 @ Dunnville Ontario...

RE: Lines, if you haven't bought them already, my buddy owns Innovative Tuning here in upstate ny and got me a great deal on Technafit (they supposedly make the parts for the Stoptech kits) - might want to give Mike a call or email
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