1st track day impressions OMG!!!!
believe it or not my instructor never explained heel toe technique to me, yet faulted me for it in the review.
I rev matched on down shift, but at times i was tenative coming out of one corner into another thinking i would lose the tail if stayed on the gas through the shift.
I rev matched on down shift, but at times i was tenative coming out of one corner into another thinking i would lose the tail if stayed on the gas through the shift.
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believe it or not my instructor never explained heel toe technique to me, yet faulted me for it in the review.
I rev matched on down shift, but at times i was tenative coming out of one corner into another thinking i would lose the tail if stayed on the gas through the shift.
I rev matched on down shift, but at times i was tenative coming out of one corner into another thinking i would lose the tail if stayed on the gas through the shift.
For first timers instructors try to keep you safe and dial your attention in. then we work on awareness and vision . then comes the track and smoothness of inputs.
that's a lot for one weekend. then the other tweeks come. Its a constant learning process .
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believe it or not you are more likely to oversteer under braking and coasting that with some gas (not talking about full throttle).
With some throttle applied the weight transfers to the rear of the car giving it more traction.
When the car is slowing (even during coasting) the weight transfers to the front and rear is lightened and looser.
With some throttle applied the weight transfers to the rear of the car giving it more traction.
When the car is slowing (even during coasting) the weight transfers to the front and rear is lightened and looser.
Last edited by mhoward1; Jun 2, 2010 at 09:30 AM.
You really don't have to worry about understeer in the Z till you do many mods tot he suspension and tire stagger. I still battle understeer running 275's all around, its really not easy to spin a Z.
believe it or not you are more likely to oversteer under braking and coasting that with some gas (not talking about full throttle).
With some throttle applied the weight transfers to the rear of the car giving it more traction.
When the car is slowing (even during coasting) the weight transfers to the front and rear is lightened and looser.
With some throttle applied the weight transfers to the rear of the car giving it more traction.
When the car is slowing (even during coasting) the weight transfers to the front and rear is lightened and looser.
I learned this in my later sessions. It was a mental block, when i did shift as required I was powered through the turn. It was the entering corners where i thought I would lose it.
I wish I could get back out there. Mental reps help so much as things come to you, how you should have performed at each point.
You sound just like I did when I started. I used to drag race, now I have no interest in it whatsoever anymore.
Welcome to the addiction and newly found credit cards!!!
Well,
My track run got recorded over
. The camera was off when it should've been on, (blame the brother-in-law on that one).
I found a 2004 Z running nhms one year ago. Pretty good driver as he is stock. I didn't run the second day for T.T.
Disclaimer: Not my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOuT1gcxxvo
Below is the course layout for illustration.
My track run got recorded over
. The camera was off when it should've been on, (blame the brother-in-law on that one).I found a 2004 Z running nhms one year ago. Pretty good driver as he is stock. I didn't run the second day for T.T.
Disclaimer: Not my video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOuT1gcxxvo
Below is the course layout for illustration.
Last edited by rich2342; Jun 3, 2010 at 12:49 PM.
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Plus it makes throttle modulation much harder.
There are some great things we can all work on in the everyday drive that make it that much more fun.
Heel/toe shifts (even though they maybe a thing of the past soon)
Vision - where are you looking when. It's something we all have to keep fresh
brake on/brake off - Most people get brake on pretty quickly, but a smooth brake off take a bit more practice.
so on and etc.
It makes my standard morning commute a lot more entertaining.
Heel/toe shifts (even though they maybe a thing of the past soon)
Vision - where are you looking when. It's something we all have to keep fresh
brake on/brake off - Most people get brake on pretty quickly, but a smooth brake off take a bit more practice.
so on and etc.
It makes my standard morning commute a lot more entertaining.
My brother rode with me a few months ago and asked me why I always heel and toe at each turn or stoplight. I just said b/c it feels good.
now he's doing it all the time in his rx8 lol
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I agree with this post. I do the same (except the brake on/off thing) and it really does make driving the commute less routine and more fun. Of course I'm not encouraging you to drive like an idiot and cut people off.
My brother rode with me a few months ago and asked me why I always heel and toe at each turn or stoplight. I just said b/c it feels good.
now he's doing it all the time in his rx8 lol
My brother rode with me a few months ago and asked me why I always heel and toe at each turn or stoplight. I just said b/c it feels good.
now he's doing it all the time in his rx8 lol
I have my second event upcoming on 7/2 and possibly 7/3 at the above track again.
Should I adjust my Swaybar settings? I've got Hotchkis v2 at the recommended setting. Medium hard front and softest rear. Im running stock tire sizes without a drop.
Any recommendations for optimal settings?
Should I adjust my Swaybar settings? I've got Hotchkis v2 at the recommended setting. Medium hard front and softest rear. Im running stock tire sizes without a drop.
Any recommendations for optimal settings?
Unless you downshift way too early in a fast sweeping, decreasing radius turn, then she spins REAL fast! 70mph-0 in 1 second, 50ft, and a boat load of smoke. The guys close behind me on a 115mph straight needed a change of underwear. Moral of the story, don't use downshifting to slow yourself, that's what brakes are for! Lesson learned.
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