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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 02:48 AM
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I was curious if anyone experiences what I feel is excessive heat soak. I feel like after my first hot lap or during, the car is way down on power. I think it may be because my oil/water temps are a bit high but I am not sure. I have an oil cooler and my oil temps still hit 280 on a 95 degree day. Water temps are around 210. Perhaps I should upgrade to a bigger radiator.

I made 248whp on a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Car was tuned by Dynosty (aka IP in KY) According to NASA rules, we are to use Dynojet dynos and if dynoed on a DD dyno then add 10% to get roughly your Dynojet whp. I am not sure how accurate that is but if that is the case that puts me at ~272whp. At Nationals I was put on the dyno on site (Dynojet) after a session so the car was hot. It actually sat in line to get on the dyno for about 20 minutes (with hood closed) and it only made 235whp. I am wondering if I have some serious issues going on or what. Compression is still good on the engine too.

Like I said though, I feel it is noticeably down on power by the middle of my first hot lap.

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Old Feb 3, 2013 | 06:58 PM
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I'm not road racing, but I know I need to manage under-hood heat on warm autocross days.

I often use a nice warm engine on cold days to get the front tires pre-warmed...
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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 07:41 AM
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Although I've never measured engine bay temps on a 350Z, I did on a Ford Contour SVT. Four direct read temp sensors in the engine bay showed that once the car got up to about 30 mph engine bay temps were within 2% of outside track air temps regardless of how hard I was driving. This was a WSIR on a 100+ degree day.

Make sure you've got good airflow through the oil cooler and, if anything, I would increase the oil cooler's capacity to get the hot temps down to about 240. That will also help the radiator, unless the oil cooler is blocking radiator air flow.

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Old Feb 4, 2013 | 03:15 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys. I was thinking of going to a bigger oil cooler. I don't think its enough. Probably get a bigger radiator too.

I was also wondering if any of the other track guys on here experience this.
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Old Feb 5, 2013 | 02:02 PM
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You are correct, I have had drivers experience this in cars that I work on. On the SCCA T2/T3 cars that I work on, we run coolers on everything as much as possible because there is a power drop when the water temperature gets over about 205 degrees. A bigger radiator and oil cooler are both good ideas.

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How big is your oil cooler?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 02:27 AM
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Has the programming been checked to see if its pulling timing based on temps?
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Old Feb 6, 2013 | 03:26 AM
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I honestly cannot remember how big the cooler is. It is the stillen kit if they even still have it. I got it a long time ago.

I have not checked the programming, but that is a good idea.
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